Picture Of My 309 Beam On My Car

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

hi all, just put my beam on car, (was really hard doing the 0.05mm gap between cross member seal and cup on the arm, done it to the best i could, fingers crossed) and noticed that the left hand side looks more bent than the other side. now the arms looked identicall as they had the same markings on etc, but to me it looks as thou the left side looks more bent in shall i say, picture below.

 

 

 

 

 

what you guys think? can the angle of the trailing arm/wheel be effected by weight or uneven ground? i have noticed that the arm has been bashed near where the bump stop would hit, but surly it would take alot for it to effect the way the car sits on the left. the stub axles arn't bent as i have totally rebiult the beam, and the left side is reccessed more on this side than the right which i there was a thread on here about, which is common.

 

 

 

thanks

 

dan

Edited January 11, 2009 by surferkid205

[jimistdt 1]

Well I agree something doesn't look right there, Dan. Looks to camber on the left. Have you driven it to where it is or has it been jacked up and dropped there?

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

Well I agree something doesn't look right there, Dan. Looks to camber on the left. Have you driven it to where it is or has it been jacked up and dropped there?

 

 

driven it there. not sure why its like that... mind i havnt tightened up the hub nut on either of the stubs, maybe it could be that? they are from a xsi 306 the arms that is.

Edited January 12, 2009 by surferkid205

[taylorspug 7]

Its just a trick of the eye due to the beam sitting over slightly as per Maxis thread, mine looks exactly the same and i know of several others that do too. Ive checked the camber on mine to make sure and it was within a quarter of a degree one side to the other.

[GLPoomobile 958]

You sure Dan (T)? I've read that topic so know what you mean, but that really does look like the ns wheel is more cambered in that photo!

 

If I was you Dan (SK), I'd get it on to some properly flat and level road, then (if you have them to hand) stick a metal straight edge (engineers ruler) vertically against the bottom of the wheel lip (not the tyre), then use a spirit level to get the metal edge sitting perfectly vertical and then measure the distance from the top of the wheel lip to the metal edge. Repeat on the opposite wheel and see what the difference is.

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

If the rear hub nut is not tightened the bearing may separate a little bit and get slacky.. leading to camber.

 

So tighten your hub nuts first and see..

[taylorspug 7]

You sure Dan (T)? I've read that topic so know what you mean, but that really does look like the ns wheel is more cambered in that photo!

 

90% sure mate, if I took a photo of my car from the back you would say exactly the same thing, NSR wheel appears to have more negative camber. Id agree its worth checking, but as long as everything is done up tight i dont think you will have a problem.

 

EDIT: Also the fact the driveway dips away slightly under the offending wheel really doesnt help the way you percieve the photo.

Edited January 12, 2009 by taylorspug

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

90% sure mate, if I took a photo of my car from the back you would say exactly the same thing, NSR wheel appears to have more negative camber. Id agree its worth checking, but as long as everything is done up tight i dont think you will have a problem.

 

EDIT: Also the fact the driveway dips away slightly under the offending wheel really doesnt help the way you percieve the photo.

 

 

well i think dan you could be right as i back the car onto the road which is more level than the drive plus i tightened up the wheel bearing hub nut, had to kick of the tyre thou as it was wedged on the hub grease cap, anyhow heres some photos of what i found... whats your views?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the last picture looks ok...

[Anthony 1,003]

Looks fine to me tbh...

[Craigo 0]

looks cool to me that! only commenting cos i love how wide it is!

[taylorspug 7]

Yeah it looks very similar to mine, check the camber if you have the opportunity, but id say that was fine.

[Fox 3]

That looks bloody awsome! Does it make much difference to the way it drives?

[Rom 0]

I wouldnt get too obssesed with it. As youll end up looking for problems.

 

Looks ok in that last pics.

 

Can you post some showing how it sits with the arches Ive been running spacers like a girl. But wont need to much longer !

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

well i tightened my rear hubs nuts to FT with a breaker bar. so see how that gets on. i will torque them up when i get access to a torque wrench. is'nt 220Ib the are meant to be done by. that must be more then FT. thanks to you all for the replys, oh rom, i will try and get some for you.

[j_turnell 137 3 Cars]

Looks spot on, if it drives fine then i wouldnt worry about it.

[MerlinGTI 3]

Think they are suppost to be 240 NM mate (not ft lbs) but I cant be sure off the top of my head.

[munster 0]

Probably no help, but I had similar camber to that on my Mi. Turned out to be a bent stub axle.

(We found this out after refurbing the beam... )

Edited January 13, 2009 by munster

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

its not the stub axles as i knockef them in my self with no probs into the arm. i havnt put my anti roll bar on yet, maybe that would help plus looking at my pics the left side looks fine to me.

[maxi 36 1 Cars]

Maybe it is just my monitor and its giving an optical illusion to what everyone else is seeing but judging by what I see there is something DEFINATELY wrong there. The N/S rear wheel is running a huge amount of camber in the pics shown as opposed to the O/S wheel.

 

As said, maybe its just my monitor playing tricks as theres no way the other guys would say that if they saw what I was looking at......

 

Maxi

[welshpug 1,658]

I'm with Maxi, something not right there, get it checked over

[timmsy19 3]

is that running standard ride hight?

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

I'm with Maxi, something not right there, get it checked over

 

 

which pictures you look at mate? the latest pictures makes the left side look ok...

[maxi 36 1 Cars]

which pictures you look at mate? the latest pictures makes the left side look ok...

 

 

Looked at all of them mate. Im no expert and I must stress different monitors/pc's/graphics cards, seem to show pics so differently but theres no way I would be happy if it was my car from what I am looking at.

 

Maxi

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

Looked at all of them mate. Im no expert and I must stress different monitors/pc's/graphics cards, seem to show pics so differently but theres no way I would be happy if it was my car from what I am looking at.

 

Maxi

 

well its not the bearings as they are all new, every part is new apart from the arms and stubs.

[maxi 36 1 Cars]

Bit of a Heath Robinson test but this might give us some clues as the pics are difficult to judge.........

 

1. Park the car on the smoothest levelest ground you can find.

 

2. Find yourself a big square taller than the wheel and a tape measure.

 

3. Put the square next to each wheel in turn and measure from the top of the rim back to the square and meaure from the bottom of the square back to the rim. Now do the same with the other side and compare the measurements. If you dont have a square you could use a spirit level but make sure you have an assistant to hold it perfectly plumb.

 

Maxi