Rich_p 23 Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) I need some tyres for the track car. Normal choice I guess would be Toyo 888's. I often see tarmac rally tyres for sale, effectively slicks with small cuts in. Has anyone had experience of these and how would they compare to the toyos? The car is running standard geometry so no camber changes as yet. Edited November 15, 2008 by Rich_p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmt 15 Posted November 16, 2008 The Toyo´s are street legal and a lot less stiff and sticks a lot less to the tarmac than any "real" slick or cut slick. For street use and a trackdey here and there the Toyo is allright. If you want fast tracktimes and more grip you should use real slicks. /Martin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted November 16, 2008 A friend of Mine uses AO48's in Soft and Medium compound (soft rarely come out) he can often get hold of part worns for lot a lot, and often they still have much of their life still in them, some not even been on a car! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swordfish210 20 Posted November 16, 2008 The A048's are far superior to the R888's in terms of grip. Kumho do a few good tarmac tyres, have you looked at their range? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted November 16, 2008 I've heard mixed reports of the Kumho tyres, but that was from the British Stockhatch Rallycross boys who use them on mixed surfaces so tend to struggle to get heat into them, favourable on price I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
projectpug 0 Posted November 16, 2008 Having used both A048 and R888(cant comment on rally slicks/inters as i havn't used them) i find that their isnt that much to choose between them comparing optimal grip to optimal grip. Its all about getting the correct tyre pressures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Thomson 6 Posted November 16, 2008 Proper rally slicks are hugely stickier than R888/A048/A032/etc. My old 106 Rallye stage car came with some proper Dunlop moulded slicks (X12s?) and once warm they were astonishing. I actually found them too good, they buggered up the feel of the car; too much grip and not enough power. For that reason I always used the Yokos or Toyos (much a muchness) because they were more fun, but the slicks were a LOT faster. And rally slicks are road legal (obviously) unless you do something daft like using them in torrential rain where you could argue that they're not fit for purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxirallye 2 Posted November 16, 2008 The difference between proper moulded slicks and the road tyres is night and day, however to go the slick route properly you need at least 12 wheels to give yourself a proper choice of compounds/ trad patterns depending on the conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philfingers 5 Posted November 16, 2008 Rob they were probably Dunlop 311's. They do those in an X12 and they're very good and around £135 each! I had about 20 with my 205! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted November 16, 2008 The Toyo´s are street legal and a lot less stiff and sticks a lot less to the tarmac than any "real" slick or cut slick. For street use and a trackdey here and there the Toyo is allright. If you want fast tracktimes and more grip you should use real slicks. /Martin FYI: Real slicks need the suspension to cope with the added grip levels too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted November 17, 2008 with full slicks will the std gated sump on a gti6 enough though though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjw970s 0 Posted November 25, 2008 I have used List 1B tyres for rallying and racing (no choice in the racing) for a while now. I had previously always used 032's on the mini and 048's on the Metro with good results - medium compound on a varying rallies. This year on my new race car (Stewart Taylor Motorsport LOCOBLADE) I have been using KHUMO V70's which I really like - very grippy, work from cold and despite being soft compound have lasted a season - bought them because they were a good buy but they have been superb. Now have a second set cut as wets as I saw them being used in Belgium on the Tour of Flanders and they worked well for the guy there. My mate switched to KHUMO's from TOYO's on his V8 Westfield and was making a second or 2 a lap on them - they are virtually road legal slicks. Now that I have got a proper Rally car, may need to get some moulded slicks! but from a cost perspective I am happy with the 048's or the KHUMO's for price and performance and i tend to do a lot of mixed racing and have noticed they are generally used if there is no control tyre. Just some thoughts..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
