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2ltrrabbit

1.9 Or 1.6?

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2ltrrabbit

Hi all,

Forgive me if i sound daft but this is my 1st 205 gti.

I recently bought a 205 with fire damage to engine bay, not major just a slight burn!

Anyhow i just bought what i thought was a 1.9 engine and ecu (as advetised) to replace mine. however i'm not sure what i bought is what i want. my ecu reads 280 000 359 the new one reads 280 000 340?

also the engine has no oil cooler, i'm starting to think i have a 1.6 engine on my hands?

Were is the engine number located or what would be an easy way to find out what it is?

Thanks for any help

steve

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hexhamstu

check if there is a spacer plate inbetween the block and the sump if there is its a 1.9 and if there isnt its a 1.6

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2ltrrabbit

I'll go check and while i'm out there i'll check the engine serial number. do you know were is this located?

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matty_gti

The end numbers '340' on the ECU point to a 1.6....

 

Matt

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2ltrrabbit

its looking that way

i bought it of a chap on here just waiting to see what he says!

were would i find the engine serial number?

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2ltrrabbit

There's no spacer plate on the sump !!!

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matty_gti

Then it is a 1.6 engine.

Edited by matty_gti

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steve@cornwall
Then it is a 1.6 engine.

 

 

Or a 1.9 Citroen...................... (just to further confuse things)

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mattbenselin

I used to have a 1.9 Citroen ZX Volcane engine lying around which instead of having a sump spacer, had a deeper sump, and extra strengthening on the block casing itself. You never know your engine could have been changed at some point or at least the sump changed. Good luck my friend.

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2ltrrabbit

Are they any difference's between 1.6 and 1.9 AFM?

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DamirGTI

Yes :) they're identical from outside but the mixture calibration is different in between the two ...

 

1.6 AFM it'll have last three digs - 056 (stamped on the black plastic cover)

1.9 AFM - 109

 

If you still doubt which engine is 1.6 or 1.9 (and you've already checked color of the injectors , presence of spacer plate , ECU numbers , AFM numbers etc. ) - whip out the spark plugs and measure the piston stroke :lol: the 1.6 will have longer and 1.9 shorter stroke :) that should solve the mystery ..

 

Damir B)

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2ltrrabbit

Cheers bud better add a maf to my shopping list too

Also as my loom in my 1.9 is naf could i use the 1.6 loom on the 1.9 engine with a 1.9 ecu?

soz for all the questions but i'm getting to know the old girl a bit more now

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DamirGTI

If the 1.9 unit/ECU is Jetronic then yes it'll be plug and play :lol: however if it's Motronic then no , cos the Jetronic ECU (1.6 or 1.9 no matter ..) connector wont fit the 1.9 Motronic ECU ..

 

Damir :)

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DamirGTI
the 1.6 will have longer and 1.9 shorter stroke

 

Damn , just spotted , did a little mix up sorry :lol: -> it's the other way around so :

 

1.6 short stroke : 73.00 mm

1.9 long stroke : 88.00 mm

 

Bedtime me thinks :)

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2ltrrabbit

i'll give it a go in the morning but i'm sure its a 1.6

cheers

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