Peugeot Mi16/s16 Xu10j4/z (rfy) Engine Install

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Peugeot mi16/s16

XU10J4/Z (RFY)

 

I haven't really done much research before buying this engine. All I know its heavier than the previous mi16 as its not an alloy block. It also has 5 less hp but has the advantage of strength for more bhp to be added.

 

I noticed the engine doesn't have a dizzy, this has worried me a bit because I was planning on doing all the work myself and wanted to use my de restricted 8v loom and run a dizzy 8v to 16v dizzy adapter.

 

I was wondering without the 16v loom what will i do about the coil? Really don't know where I should start.

 

Also i wanted to run carbs as I'm no electrician and don't have a wiring loom for the engine so twin 45s were the plan.

 

Im not a mechanic or an electrician but willing to learn so this will be my first engine conversion so any feedback is greatly appreciated.

 

The reason i am doing this now is because my 8v 1.9 engines bottom end is gone so thought i might aswell go for a 16v as ive always wanted that extra power.

 

Any thoughts?

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How does the ignition system work on the mi16/s16 engine it doesn't have a distributor? I didnt think i would need a complete loom as i was planning on running carbs. But now im stuck as i dont know how the ignition works as it dont use a dizzy unlike the alloy mi16, which can be used with a dizzy adapter and the 8v loom.

 

Should i scrap the idea of an s16 engine? Or is it possible to run with 8v loom and little modifications and carbs?

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It should be possible to fit an adapter to the exhaust cam to drive a distributor.

I am going to fit a GTI6 motor in mine, and as I hate electrics, would prefer a dizzy and bike carbs.

I'm trying to find out if an MI16 adapter would fit a GTI6 motor. If not I'll have to make one.

Usually the ignition system is controlled by the ECU.

Another option is to fit a Megajolt if you want carbs.

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It should be possible to fit an adapter to the exhaust cam to drive a distributor.

I am going to fit a GTI6 motor in mine, and as I hate electrics, would prefer a dizzy and bike carbs.

I'm trying to find out if an MI16 adapter would fit a GTI6 motor. If not I'll have to make one.

Usually the ignition system is controlled by the ECU.

Another option is to fit a Megajolt if you want carbs.

I am scared of electrics so want to use a distributor as it seems much more simple to me and would work with my 8v loom.... wonder if anyone on here has done a dizzy conversion on an s16 or gti6?

Think mine may be possible as i think there is very little difference as they have the same rocker cover as the alloy mi16.

Haven't thought about a megajolt looks expensive though.

 

If there's anyone out there who run a s16 engine on 1.9 8v management please tell me how?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

S16 is easy to run a Dizy converter, Just use all the 1.9 Stat housing and Inlet cam, easy as that

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S16 is easy to run a Dizy converter, Just use all the 1.9 Stat housing and Inlet cam, easy as that

Well thats a relief. Is the actual inlet cam different on the s16? You mean the 1.9 16v stat housing?

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Well thats a relief. Is the actual inlet cam different on the s16? You mean the 1.9 16v stat housing?

 

The inlet cam on the S16 doesn't have the drive for the distributor as it runs mapped ignition. The 1.9 cam has a notch on the end. The 1.9 16v stat housing has the hole to fit the distributor cap or in your 8v adapter to.

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The inlet cam on the S16 doesn't have the drive for the distributor as it runs mapped ignition. The 1.9 cam has a notch on the end. The 1.9 16v stat housing has the hole to fit the distributor cap or in your 8v adapter to.

Thanks i will go and look for one.

[welshpug 1,677]

have you got the S16 loom? if so use that.

 

you can make it run by connecting 4 wires, and its a far far better management system than Jetronic.

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have you got the S16 loom? if so use that.

 

you can make it run by connecting 4 wires, and its a far far better management system than Jetronic.

Unfortunately not... got all the inlet and injection system, but all the wiring has been chopped and i don't have the s16 ecu.

I have a de-restricted 8v ecu and a loom so going to use that. Haven't got much choice so guess i will run carbs (twin 45's) and use the 8v dizzy converter. Seeing as Im having to replace the inlet cam with a dizzy compatible one, is it worth me getting a high lift mi16 cam or just get a standard mi16 cam?

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In your position I'd either source an original RFY loom+ecu, or go for an aftermarket system, I wouldn't want to use Jetronic or carbs.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

I will also add I have a S16 loom and unlocked ECU if any use

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I will also add I have a S16 loom and unlocked ECU if any use

I might be interested in that actually is the loom completely intact as i will need it to basically be plug and play as I'm not capable of doing to much electrics.

 

Would the monotronic system be ok for throttle bodies or would you run an aftermarket system? My budget isnt big so just want it to work well and cost little, probally not possible

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if you run a 8v loom and the mi engine with a dizzy adaptor how much if a disadvantage is it

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if you run a 8v loom and the mi engine with a dizzy adaptor how much if a disadvantage is it

Well think its quite a big disadvantage using 8v loom on an mi16 if you don't have a de restricted ecu as the mi16 will need to rev higher then the standard ecu will let it go.

I would like to know why running monotronic is better than the 8v jetronic system on an mi16.