Cost Of Respray

[Ethos 0]

Is it not possible to get a "blow over" which would be alot cheaper?

[toddydal 1]

yeh go to a back street spot and get some one with no spray booth,paint work full of s*ite, orange peel,runs, reactions,repairs all ripply and mapped out the rust coming back through in 2weeks for £500 what a waste of money

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

I've had another quote of £1900 + VAT from another garage. He was saying it would be about a weeks work, with approx £400 worth of paint.

Looks like I'll be going with the first quote..

I know its alot of money, but its the sort of thing I plan on doing only once, so Id rather have absolutely no regrets over the quality, rather than have a cheaper job, but only really save a few hundred quid, which isnt that much in the bigger picture.

Maybe I'm mad... but there we go :

[Paintguy 0]

yeh go to a back street spot and get some one with no spray booth,paint work full of s*ite, orange peel,runs, reactions,repairs all ripply and mapped out the rust coming back through in 2weeks for £500 what a waste of money

Sounds like you've seen some of my work then

 

There are some very valid points raised here though, especially by GLP and toddydal. Actually painting a car takes little time, it's the prep that swallows the hours. At work we have a small team, but even with 3 people prepping, and one person polishing/de-prepping, they still can't keep up with me (the lone painter). Actually applying the paint isn't a lengthy process, but if it's going over the top of shoddy preparation work, then you might as well not bother, as any defect will show right through. As far as the time involved goes, I do very few full paints now, but the last one we did took only 5 hours to strip, prep and mask, 1 hour to paint and bake, and 2 hours to polish and build back up. That was a car that had virtually no damage on it, just a patchwork quilt of off-colour panels from previous spray jobs, so required little more than a light sanding before the paint was put on.

 

When you're talking about a car that has dents, scratches etc on every panel, you can easily be looking at 2 or 3 days to prep correctly, a few hours masking up, then a day or so polishing and refitting, so 40 hours is by no means excessive. Yes you can get cheap blow-overs, but what's the point in painting over dents, rust and scratches? They'll still all be there, just covered in nice shiny paint (which will probably make them stand out even more).

 

To an extent you get what you pay for, and the more time spent getting the job right before the paint is put on, the better the finished item will be, and the longer it will (should) stay looking that way.

 

For those of you that can't get your heads around paying top dollar for a 'respray', think about it like buying some tyres for your 205. Why would anyone spend £30-£40 quid on some Goodyear Eagle F1's, when some cheapo budget ones will do exactly the same job for half the price. Won't they?

[toddydal 1]

when i did my 205 the weekend respray thread i stripped my car 1 weekend and the following weekend me and 2 more painters,1 prepper and 1 panel beater started my car at 9am on saturday and i had the car painted by 11pm saturday but in that 1 day we did 3 days work but you dont mind working hard on your own car so it is possible to do a decent job in a short space of time and my car wasnt in bad nick to start with,but like paintguy said if the preps not right your just wasting time and paint and money,some times at the place i work they say try and not be to long on that car as there only paying so much cash for that job and i think it dont matter if its £50 or £150 i didnt do the estimate and i still do the best i can,the thing is if i was paying cash for anything it dont matter how much i would still want the job right

[Paintguy 0]

,some times at the place i work they say try and not be to long on that car as there only paying so much cash for that job and i think it dont matter if its £50 or £150 i didnt do the estimate and i still do the best i can

And getting it right first time is much better / cheaper than having to do the job again if the customer isn't happy

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

Thought I would update this tread (mainly to have a bit of a whinge)

My pug has now been in the bodyshop exactly 1 month.. it appears that I misunderstood the extent that they were doing this job as infill in their own time.. (hence them doing it for cash and cheaper than everyone else...) so theres no chance of them rushing the job!!

I want my car back now though

Edited July 29, 2008 by cRaig

[eddie bullit 37]

Thought I would update this tread (mainly to have a bit of a whinge)

My pug has now been in the bodyshop exactly 1 month.. it appears that I misunderstood the extent that they were doing this job as infill in their own time.. (hence them doing it for cash and cheaper than everyone else...) so theres no chance of them rushing the job!!

I want my car back now though

 

 

have they started on y' pug yet? I know how annoying it can be pull up at the bodyshop and the only difference is its covered in dust keep us all informed mate and best of luck

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

Last time I went to see it, nearly a couple of weeks ago they had flatted it back, and tackled the couple of rusty holes that needed welding:

Hole in the innner wing and behind one of the rear lights

 

Then I gave up visiting as the slow progress was depressing me

Might get the courage to go see it later this week

[toddydal 1]

well just lets hope they do a good job with how longs its taking,weve had a bmw in the place i work for 15yrs we only work on it when were quiet or at christmas time on the last day before we finnish for the hols i dont even know if the owners still alive and before that we had a triumph stag in for 7yrs so its not to bad for you yet

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

well just lets hope they do a good job with how longs its taking,weve had a bmw in the place i work for 15yrs we only work on it when were quiet or at christmas time on the last day before we finnish for the hols i dont even know if the owners still alive and before that we had a triumph stag in for 7yrs so its not to bad for you yet

 

15 years?! Thanks... that cheered me right up!

[Rom 0]

Resprays are something that really need to have the money spent on. Its not something you want to scrimp and scrape on, as it will show.

 

That said, there also has to be a happy medium,as we cant all have £10k resprays by top notch marque bodyshops

I hope it turns out nice for you.

 

I keep delaying my respray and blowing money on mechanical goodies. I really need to get it painted sooner rather than later now, as those small bubbles are getting bigger

 

 

Good luck, and keep us updated .

[Tesstuff 222]

I got my quote today for a respray and generally make it mint.

 

£2750 plus VAT

 

That is to sort parking dinks and dents all round.

Sort the dinks in the bonnet.

Repair the crease in the front wing.

Repair the crease in the tailgate.

Respray the whole car in Sorrento Green

 

It would be the most 'valuable' Gentry in the country i reckon, and i wouldnt get a penny back for it

Edited July 30, 2008 by Tesstuff

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

I got my quote today for a respray and generally make it mint.

 

£2750 plus VAT

 

That is to sort parking dinks and dents all round.

Sort the dinks in the bonnet.

Repair the crease in the front wing.

Repair the crease in the tailgate.

Respray the whole car in Sorrento Green

 

It would be the most 'valuable' Gentry in the country i reckon, and i wouldnt get a penny back for it

 

Ouch! Thats alot of cash! But still, Its not like I'll honestly see any of the money back that Im spending..

 

Went to see it this afternoon, progress has been pretty good actually. All the welding has been finished (to a very high standard I must say..) and the whole car has had a blow over of primer. Under the bonnet has been fully painted, they fully stripped it back to a bare bay, I had left most of the loom etc in place, but they werent happy to spray around it, they want it done right

They are planning to come in this saturday for a few hours to finish prepping it, so hopefully it might get painted next week

[Redtop 14 2 Cars]

This thread says it all really. If you want a mint 205 then buy one which is a bit more expensive but has good bodywork, as it'll work out cheaper in the long run. Bodywork is very time consuming and I learnt that leason with a mini I thought i'd do myself. Hope your car turns out well Craig and it'll be worth the wait. Ive got my own now sitting ready stripped for the bodyshop.

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

This thread says it all really. If you want a mint 205 then buy one which is a bit more expensive but has good bodywork, as it'll work out cheaper in the long run. Bodywork is very time consuming and I learnt that leason with a mini I thought i'd do myself. Hope your car turns out well Craig and it'll be worth the wait. Ive got my own now sitting ready stripped for the bodyshop.

 

Yeah, I suppose with hindsight I could have bought one with better bodywork, but on the other hand, while the bodywork that is being done is time consuming (and therefore expensive) its fairly minor in the scheme of things- only 2 patches of rust, and after being all over the bodywork (both myself and the paintshop) there is no evidence of any kind of serious accident repairwork. Its just all minor dents etc (its just theres lots of them :

Plus the mechanicals all seem strong, and the interior is in good nick.

 

Also I guess any 205 (or car of similar age) is going to have paintwork damage, so will need work sooner or later..

[eddie bullit 37]

Yeah, I suppose with hindsight I could have bought one with better bodywork, but on the other hand, while the bodywork that is being done is time consuming (and therefore expensive) its fairly minor in the scheme of things- only 2 patches of rust, and after being all over the bodywork (both myself and the paintshop) there is no evidence of any kind of serious accident repairwork. Its just all minor dents etc (its just theres lots of them :

Plus the mechanicals all seem strong, and the interior is in good nick.

 

Also I guess any 205 (or car of similar age) is going to have paintwork damage, so will need work sooner or later..

I used the same principles when buying mine. Interior was excellent, mechanicals were strong,fpsh, bodywork had the odd little knock but nothing serious.apart from mega laquer peel And came to the conclusion that whatever I get I'll end up stripping just for peace of mind that theres no giant holes anywhere. I dont know if anyone else is like that or I'm just a bit weird but I cant believe that a car can be 15yr plus old and not have a bit of rust that could do with sorting.

My conclusion was that my car had not been abused in any way, just that it had been owned by someone that had no real enthusiasm for it and it seemed straight, after looking at quite a few I think youre lucky if you pick one up thats not had a knob as an owner in some time in its life..

cant wait to see some piccys keep us informed pal

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

Yeah, the guy I bought it off (or possibly the 1 before that) had done a few interesting things to the car, I guess they had started with good intentions, but lost interest.

For example the fuel pump had been replaced, without all the bolts holding it down, or the gasket beneath it. Plus the fuel pipe clips hadnt been replaced, so the pipes were just pushed onto the pump, it wasnt untill the petrol was soaking into the carpet that I figured out where the smell was coming from

Plus other wonderful things like wiring the fan on all the time by twisting a wire around the constant live next to the ignition, and covering it with ducktape..

 

yeah thanks, will hopefully have some pictures soon

[toddydal 1]

any painter who moans about masking something up is a good sign,i hate masking things up when they should be taken off it sounds like your going to get a good job done mate keep us updated with the progress

[mattmk1 0]

We normally charge around the £1500 to 1800 makr for a 205 due to most of them being pin dented to bugary. Weve just painted a sorrento that had been 'professionally resprayed' 18mths ago and all the paint was peeling off. So we had tp repaint the car, and most of the old paint had to come down to bare metal to stop reactions. So if you want it doing properly, pay the money.

 

Ask to see some cars that theyve painted or photographs of previous work. If they cant, or are reluctant, walk away. Most good paintshops are proud of their work and should be all to willing to hand over a file of tasty looking motors that theyve put together.

 

Oh and bare in mind that retail price on sorrento green basecoat is £135 a litre, and you need at least 3 litres, plus lacquer, primer, masking, thinners, other consumables, filler, tack wrags etc, then you fire up the spray booth to bake the paint and £100 worth of gas goes up in smoke, you start to get the impression of why its a costly buisness.

[toddydal 1]

thats what all the painters on here are trying to say,people on here are saying im only paying 800-1200 quid for the job and all there going to get is pure s*it,it wont last,rust coming back through,flaky clearcoat,etc,etc, i said on this tread about the price of quality paint,the only way you can get a good job for a 1000 quid is if you know some one whos a good painter and he knocks off the good quality paint and does it on the side for you

[platty 1]

hmmmm, well im stripping the car, prepping the car, and now looking at the cost of fancy paint.....having the car painted white! Miami Blue has just gone out of the window!

[cRaig 273 1 Cars]

Okay... maybe I'm not getting such a good deal after all. Thats been 7 weeks today in the bodyshop and I still havent got my car back! The shell has finally been painted, and the valances etc are being done tomorrow I think.. So it now looks like I will be getting it back this friday!

 

Rapidly losing interest in this project now, because I'll be heading back off to uni soon, I guarentee its going to be sat unloved in a friends council garage in bits until christmas..

 

.. does anyone want to buy a *mint* condtion Lazer green 1.9 kit of parts? Just needs reassembling..

[eddie bullit 37]

Don't loose interest mate..as soon as you get y' little laser back and start fitting the arches and stuff back on you'll soon get your interest back in it. So what you have to wait it will be worth it I got p**sed of with mine but now it ll seems worth it, I love it to bits

[toddydal 1]

it wont take long to put it back together mate,post some pictures of the progress