Rose Jointed Wishbones

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

ebay linkThis has gave me an Idea!

 

 

Anyone know what I need?

I already have a spare pair of scrap wishbones.

What ball joints do they use, and where can I get them from?

Edited May 19, 2008 by ALEX

[Baz 421]

They use rose joints.

 

Lop the BJ ends off, weld in a threaded tube (perfectly straight) and screw in the RJ's. Sounds alot simpler than it is though.

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

Looking at the price this guy is selling them at though.

 

I don't think it's worth my time and effort to do my own.

These look really good quality too!

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[brumster 135 1 Cars]

It's all in the quality of the spherical rod ends...

[notamondayfan 44]

personally i wouldnt trust none peugeot parts in this department. if they fail its gonna be nasty.

 

im not saying this guys parts will fail, but how many hours R+D has he done for such a structural part?

[welshpug 1,657]

parts like these have been made for years, but you do have to be very accurate with your cutting and welding or you'll have a wonky car!

 

(pretty sure PTS GpA wishbones looked like these, with GpN being normal balljoints but with only a slot not a full groove for the bolt)

[205wrc 16]

parts like these have been made for years, but you do have to be very accurate with your cutting and welding or you'll have a wonky car!

 

(pretty sure PTS GpA wishbones looked like these, with GpN being normal balljoints but with only a slot not a full groove for the bolt)

 

You're right, they do look like the PTS ones, but I doubt that they are of the same quality.

PTS rose joints are M20 thread with a 16mm hole which makes them a bit of an odd bod bearing and cost in the region of £90 each + VAT (part number is RBJ79MG).

The drop pins are about £35 each + VAT and the rubber gaitors for the rose joints are £6 each + VAT. That makes a total of............ £307.85, and thats without obtaining the withbones and fabrication costs, fitting new bushes etc.

No wonder that companies like AB Motorsport etc charge about £550 for them.

I cost me £230 to make a set a few years ago, and that was using my own wishbones!!.

 

Check out the prices on the Skip Brown Catalogue.........its a few years old mind!

 

[Spiky 37]

surely they wont fit, as the bolt on the rj would hit the drive shaft at the hub end??

[welshpug 1,657]

no, they fit like normal balljoints as far as I can see, just like the compbrake ones I believe.

[sutol 0]

Have you tried 'rotaprescision .com' in Bristol I believe.

[sutol 0]

http://www.rotaprecision.com/

 

Thats the one

[Spiky 37]

no, they fit like normal balljoints as far as I can see, just like the compbrake ones I believe.

 

 

if the bolt in the picture fits vertical then they 100% wont fit,

 

as mine (compbrake) fit vertical and use a std pinch bolt horizontal

 

they those above would need to be horiztonal, else they wont fit

 

as you will see below, there is very little room for a vertial bolt, and it would need modifying

 

[Rippthrough 98]

It's not a bolt, it's a pin, which means it'll fit just like standard.

[casnell 0]

You're right, they do look like the PTS ones, but I doubt that they are of the same quality.

PTS rose joints are M20 thread with a 16mm hole which makes them a bit of an odd bod bearing and cost in the region of £90 each + VAT (part number is RBJ79MG).

The drop pins are about £35 each + VAT and the rubber gaitors for the rose joints are £6 each + VAT. That makes a total of............ £307.85, and thats without obtaining the withbones and fabrication costs, fitting new bushes etc.

No wonder that companies like AB Motorsport etc charge about £550 for them.

I cost me £230 to make a set a few years ago, and that was using my own wishbones!!.

 

Check out the prices on the Skip Brown Catalogue.........its a few years old mind!

 

Anyone got an email for Skip Brown, or any other source for RBJ79MG rod ends?

[welshpug 1,657]

http://www.skipbrowncars.com/

 

or try http://www.rotaprecision.com/pages/motorsport.html

Edited May 22, 2009 by welshpug

[casnell 0]

http://www.skipbrowncars.com/

Found that, no email addy tho

 

Chris

[welshpug 1,657]

they have a phone number, might be a bit expensive for you though!

 

they're old skool....

[Cameron 16]

This reminds me I need to get my arse in gear on the tubular wishbones..

[welshpug 1,657]

Well I know someone who is a little closer on them as he's made some for a 306, just needs a Jig and will be making 205 ones soon hopefully, with o.e type outer balljoint

[Cameron 16]

O RLY?

Not put off to be honest, at least I'll have the research to back up the end product.

[welshpug 1,657]

wasn't intending to put you off at all Cameron! yours were going to be fully rose-jointed IIRC, the ones I know of have ben made with a slat towarsds fastroad rather than pure race/rally use

[Cameron 16]

I know, but its always a bit worrying to find you have competition! My ones will also be T45.

I really need to get my arse in gear actually, I haven't done anything on that project for weeks!

[Rippthrough 98]

I know, but its always a bit worrying to find you have competition! My ones will also be T45.

I really need to get my arse in gear actually, I haven't done anything on that project for weeks!

 

 

Mine are already T45

 

 

At least your project is going a little faster, mine have been 2 years in the making

Edited May 22, 2009 by Rippthrough

[Cameron 16]

Damn..!

[Rippthrough 98]

Damn..!

 

And who pointed you towards the T45 to start with?

Keep going with 'em, nothing like a bit of healthy competition.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, where's me shotgun, I hope the pigs are hungry...

Edited May 22, 2009 by Rippthrough