NeilGTi85 5 Posted May 14, 2008 Hello All, Some off you might know that I've been fixing/restoring a 2L 405 MI16 engined 1.6 205. I Have just had the beam re-built by Dan Taylor with Baker Bush's fitted and 306 arm's. Now my front brake's need sorting out as they are fubar'd. My shaft's are knackerd, so I was thinking 1.9 shaft's and hubs and 309 wishbone's. (with the 1.9 hub's i'm right in thinking I can fit the bigger brake's...HDi etc) From some of the posts I've read about the 309 shaft's being to long, I think I would be ok with the 1.9 one's. Im not running big BHP's but I do use them all!! Just want some comments about using 1.9 shaft's with the 2L (iron) block....im unsure if there the same with the 1.9 Mi's.. Cheers Everyone, Neil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted May 14, 2008 To your initial question, 1900 hubs will mean you can run bigger breaks, like GTi6, Hdi's etc. If your planning to run 309 wishbones, then yes you'll need 309 length drive shafts. As for using 1900 shafts with a iron block, that won't really matter. Al Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilGTi85 5 Posted May 14, 2008 To your initial question, 1900 hubs will mean you can run bigger breaks, like GTi6, Hdi's etc. If your planning to run 309 wishbones, then yes you'll need 309 length drive shafts. As for using 1900 shafts with a iron block, that won't really matter. Al Cheers Al, What do you think is the best option? It would be far easier for me to get hold of the 1.9 running gear rather then the 309 bit's. Would there be any major disadvantage's using the 1.9 bits? As its mainly a everyday road going car. I'm pretty sure GSF sell the shaft's and wishbones and hub's, what else would I need to add to my shopping list? Cheers Neil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted May 14, 2008 205 1.9 parts are more common, mainly because people tend to ditch the stuff and opt for 309 stuff. 99% of used wishbones are dead by now. And to get full effect i would buy new. Genuine items are £££, but pattern items are cheaper, but come with s*ite bushes, although the ball joints aren't too bad. This can be fixed with installing new genuine bushes which are £17 for the kit which includes new bolts. Hubs you can pick up second hand. Check that the ball joints are not ovaled, and the bearing aren't dead. I've not had any issues with pattern drive shafts either, other than double checking what you get out the box when paying. Once you've fitted all these parts, your car will need its tracking reset, but its a good upgrade. Prior to me upgrading to 309 items, on hard driving i had problems scrubbing the outer edge of my tyre. But running a little more camber has fixed this, and covered over 30k and a couple of even worn set of tyres. Al Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilGTi85 5 Posted May 14, 2008 Cheers Al, Will search the market and see what I can find, Neil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnie205 1 Posted May 14, 2008 go for 306 gti6 front hubs they are lighter, you wont get a hubs from gsf or any motor factor just get a secondhand set Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,662 Posted May 14, 2008 (edited) Make sure that if you intend on using the heavier*, BUT stronger 306 hub carriers that you get the earlier type, later ones use an 18mm balljoint pin. Any early 306 XU hub/Hub carrier will do the job. *check the weights thread, 300g heavier to be precise! Edited May 14, 2008 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James_R 3 Posted May 14, 2008 On a road car I find 1600 stuff perfectly goos as it offers wider front track than 1900 kit and not the camber you have with 309 stuff which tends to throw the car about on rutted roads. That said my track 205 runs 309 stuff and eccentric top mounts, but on the road 205 just std 1600 stuff and love it, 1.9 calipers on 1.6 hubs and discs is a good upgrade, I find 1.9 brakes fine on both road and track. Just seems like a lot of extra expense. On the bushes thing, I prefer to swap up to Poly Race bushes simple becuase they remove the need to tighten the wishbones once the cars on the ground and there's no preload on them, you can simple move them up or down out your way when the hubs have to come off, each to their own though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars Posted May 14, 2008 Gen Peugeot shafts are much better than some after market ones. 1.6 ones will be fine if they are in good nick. However the brake upgrade side is one of the main factors a lot of people change. But 1.6 brakes are not that bad either if you run decent quality discs and pads As for using 1900 shafts with a iron block, that won't really matter. It may if you are running the iron blocked gearbox as the later ones have different internals in the diff and the shafts won't push in as far. I had to swap to the original diff when I put my long iron block hybrid Mi box on because of this problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxi 36 1 Cars Posted May 16, 2008 On a road car I find 1600 stuff perfectly goos as it offers wider front track than 1900 kit and not the camber you have with 309 stuff which tends to throw the car about on rutted roads. Couldnt have said it better myself. Maxi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
