sutol 0 Posted March 15, 2008 search comes up with loads but not numbers. before I comit the engine and box to the engine bay I would like to check on which box I have just screwed on to the engine. It's got 12DS2 cast into the top and here's a pic Help anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sie 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Looks like a Peugeot box to me ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony perks 1 Posted March 15, 2008 Looks like a Be 1 to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jord294 92 Posted March 15, 2008 Looks like a Be 1 to me. i'd second that. i'd also hazard a guess at it being a 1.6 be1, if it was already coupled up to the mi16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sutol 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Looks like a Be 1 to me. Thought B1 s had a cable reverse or is that another type ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Turbo 3 Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) It sure looks like a BE1, did it come from a 205 gti? You can remove the diff cover and there will be a number stamped in there, or count the teeth, you can work out if it's a 1.6 or 1.9 box from that. BE1 is lift up reverse (with a cable that goes into the oil fill hole on the top) Edited March 15, 2008 by Rob Turbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jord294 92 Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) i've just compared your picture to a gearbox i have. the number i have on the be1 1600 gearbox is 11DS1 very near to where you got 12DS2 from, it will actually state be1. if you removed the clutch cable mounting bracket, you can see quite clearly what it says. the bracket is the one being held on by 2 x 11mm hex headed bolts Edited March 15, 2008 by jord294 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sutol 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Think you're all right as there is a threaded hole for the cable on top and it is stamped either 1986 or 89 can't tell which way up the No 6 is. that's me looking for the cable conversion then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sutol 0 Posted March 15, 2008 i've just compared your picture to a gearbox i have. the number i have on the be1 1600 gearbox is 11DS1 very near to where you got 12DS2 from, it will actually state be1. if you removed the clutch cable mounting bracket, you can see quite clearly what it says. the bracket is the one being held on by 2 x 11mm hex headed bolts Thanks, I'll check that out tomorrow, off to the chippy now for chips and curry. MMmmmmmmmmmmm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamirGTI 342 Posted March 16, 2008 Hi ! Remove the diff. cover and read the numbers stamped on the differential You'll see the numbers like this : 16X65 , or 16X59 , 14X62 etc.etc depending on gearbox type ... Regards ! Damir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 587 Posted March 16, 2008 Does it have a hole for the crank angle sensor? Early BE1 boxes didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sutol 0 Posted March 16, 2008 Does it have a hole for the crank angle sensor? Early BE1 boxes didn't. It's a Be1 as stamped on the top It has a hole at the top near the flywheel which I presume is for a crank sensor, I think you can see it on this picture;- I havn't got an attatchment for the box to run cable to gearstick but as I can select five gears and reverse (left and forward) would it be Ok to use without the reverse block, I suppose a light in the dash powered via reverse switch would be a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@tt 77 Posted March 16, 2008 you could run without the reverse plug although it could be quite easy to accidently put it into reverse rather that 1st and shag the box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugman211 0 Posted March 17, 2008 Very easy indeed!!! and you cant tell you done it till you lift the clutch and it went....................BANG!!!!!!!! Not worth the chance mate!! I know form 1st hand experience! not nice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sutol 0 Posted March 17, 2008 Very easy indeed!!! and you cant tell you done it till you lift the clutch and it went....................BANG!!!!!!!! Not worth the chance mate!! I know form 1st hand experience! not nice! I can appreciate that it may be easy to select reverse instead of first but I couldn't do it on the move as I never have use first unless starting off . I would be interested to know how you managed it as reverse on my box will be well over to the left and up ,,,unless the quickshift causes a problem, I never thought of that. If I can't fix the blocking mechanism then I will fit a dash light to show that reverse has been engaged. Maybe a buzzer would be better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
