Pulling Under Acceleration?

[GTI6BOY 29]

On my mates 205 we have just fitted new wishbones/droplinks/track rod ends/kaaz diff/bilstein b12 kit/top mounts and group n rubbers and its just been lazor allined

 

the car feels so unsafe, as you put your foot down it pulls to the left and when you let go of the pedal it straightens out again so while driving its like the car is all over the place.

 

With everything that has been done it should be like a new car

 

any ideas where to look ?

[welshpug 1,657]

lower balljoint-hub clamp, they go oval, also the bolts do tend strip if they're old and cause similar symptoms.

[jackherer 543]

What bushes are in the wishbones? If they are pattern wishbones and still have the original bushes get some genuine pug ones in there.

[GTI6BOY 29]

everything is a week old...it was all done at the same time bolts and all.

 

could an ovalved hub cause this? How can i test if this is the problem?

[jackherer 543]

pattern wishbone bushes can be dead within a week or less, it happens all the time.

[Coonper 0]

You sure its not just torque steering?

 

Has it got good tyres?

[GTI6BOY 29]

i have use the same make wishbones on my cti and dimma with no probs?

 

toyo 1r's on standard 1.9 wheels

 

defo not torque steer

Edited March 10, 2008 by GTI6BOY

[welshpug 1,657]

shouldn't torque steer that badly with a diff, but they can be a bit twitchy dependent on the surface I believe.

 

lift the front up and grab hold of the wheel and move it back/forth + in-out while someone watches there the balljoint goes into the hub.

[ablister 31]

try swaping tyres around and see if that helps

[GTI6BOY 29]

Dont think its the diff as i have one and my car never wanders

 

Tyres are new

 

Will try moving the wheel

 

cheers

[Alastairh 47]

Ovaled hub.

[j_turnell 137 3 Cars]

As jakherer said wishbone bushes fail all the time, even if they are new, i'd put my money on that, although as mentioned an ovaled hub could cause it, although in my experience i'd def say bushes if its really bad.

Edited March 10, 2008 by j_turnell

[paul205mi16 4]

Did u find a cure yet m8?

Hubs or bushes?

[GTI6BOY 29]

gonna try and check tonight

[GTI6BOY 29]

Right...i jacked car up on the passenger side, pulled the wheel in all directions and nothing?

[welshpug 1,657]

checked the other side?

[nick 3]

You might not feel any play in the bushes, but they could still be f***ed.

 

I put a new wishbone on because it was wandering (pattern part) and within a week it was pulling again, put new genuine bushes in and it's been fine for 18 months now. I couldn't detect any play in either of the wishbones.

 

Nick

[GTI6BOY 29]

I just checked the left as this is the way its pulling?

[Alastairh 47]

Doesn't matter.

 

As said. pattern wishbones are s*ite with a capital S. I've had 2 week old ones fail on me, but some last 7000 miles. Go figure?

 

Spend the £18 it is for genuine bush set (part number in search), and while the ball joint is out for swapping the bushes on the bone check the hub.

 

Al

[kyepan 291]

you might also want to check the following.

 

Subframe mounting bolts, the six at the back, and the two that go to the inner wings.

Steering rack mounting bolts that are horizontally mounted on the sub frame.

Tyre pressures.

Play in the steering rack.

 

Am suffering from the same issues as you after fitting new poly wishbone bushes, it was fine for 50 (yes 50) miles, then back to its wandering. I'm almost sure its the bushes because i've had it twice before on much longer in the tooth wishbones, solved fine both times. Going for pug oem next time. Only happens at motorway speeds though.

 

I also have a diff, and when its grabbing it feels different to the change in direction your describing. If you've also changed to 309 lower arms, and gone for a neutral toe setting it will very closely follow any camber changes or ruts in the road.. but i'm fairly sure your descibing the flat middle lane motorway cruising where if you lift throttle = left wander, apply throttle = right wander.

 

hope this helps.

 

J

Edited March 11, 2008 by kyepan

[GTI6BOY 29]

I think the best way to describe it would be "driving on lanes where lorrys have indented the road"

[Simes 248 2 Cars]

Am suffering from the same issues as you after fitting new poly wishbone bushes, it was fine for 50 (yes 50) miles, then back to its wandering. I'm almost sure its the bushes because i've had it twice before on much longer in the tooth wishbones, solved fine both times. Going for pug oem next time. Only happens at motorway speeds though.

 

J

 

 

When you tightened up the wishbone bolts was the car up in the air?

[kyepan 291]

When you tightened up the wishbone bolts was the car up in the air?

we always put the trolly jack under the hub to get the wishbones in their normal position before tightening.

[jackherer 543]

When you tightened up the wishbone bolts was the car up in the air?

 

That doesn't apply to polybushes in the same way as OE rubber bushes.

[GTI6BOY 29]

Right...just noticed where the pinch bolt goes through the ball joint, it was done up so there was no gap, and the ball joint came out quite easily? i thought there was ment to be about a 10mm gap in the hub?