Helix Clutch

[205mattgti 0]

how usable are the Helix paddle clutches on the road

 

i am looking at getting one along with a mi16 lightened flywheel

 

 

cheers

 

Matt

[ajm-e30 0]

iv never had a problem with them but can be difficult if not used to them mate

[Sandy 191]

Sharp and occasional judder, but reliable and once you're used to it, normal clutches feel horrible!

[saveloy 8]

For road use a paddle will judder and vibrate on take up. You will need to dial in more revs than you are used to to pull away. I think they are horrible on road cars.

On top of that, a paddle will wear prematurely, compared to an uprated organic plate. My friend's paddle (on his 205TT) lasted 7000 miles! Whereas my organic Helix has done around 30,000 miles, so far.

Edited December 23, 2007 by saveloy

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

whats the best race clutch to go for on a 205?! and what sorta priuce u lookin at?!

 

thanx

 

simon

[Sandy 191]

That's odd on the wear, because cerametallic friction material is generally harder wearing than organic and certainly has been my experience on the cars I've used them on. I accept that not everybody likes the take up, but it's usually exacerbated by using an uprated cover, where as I use standard covers to retain the friendly feel.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

For a road car I would favour the Organic plate over the padel, I;ve used and supplied allot of Organic plates and yet to have a problem,

[McPikie 0]

Miles, what kind of price are you charging for a decent uprated clutch??

[saveloy 8]

That's odd on the wear, because cerametallic friction material is generally harder wearing than organic and certainly has been my experience on the cars I've used them on. I accept that not everybody likes the take up, but it's usually exacerbated by using an uprated cover, where as I use standard covers to retain the friendly feel.

 

That's the difference. With the uprated cover the extra pressure over heats the friction plate. The paddle types aren't designed for stop/start traffic. They simply wear quickly because of the extra heat.

[205mattgti 0]

where is the best place to get the clutches from

 

and what pressure plate should i use

 

all help appricated

 

matt

[Sandy 191]

Unless it's a boosted engine, the OE pressure plate will suffice.

 

UK dealers for Helix are Mardi Gras and Demon Tweeks IIRC. Also check out the OMP plates from YB Racing, I've heard good reports on them recently.

[205mattgti 0]

thanks all

 

do i use the standard release bearing as well

[Sandy 191]

Yes, but a slightly deeper one is sometimes advisable to take up the slack from the different fingers position, or it'll rattle a bit at idle.

[205mattgti 0]

Yes, but a slightly deeper one is sometimes advisable to take up the slack from the different fingers position, or it'll rattle a bit at idle.

 

 

where do i get one of them from

 

 

cheers

[Sandy 191]

Not sure for the BE boxes, but on MA's the 1.4 one is thickest.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

All the same on the BE's unless you go for a multi plate clutch