McPikie 0 Posted November 21, 2007 OK, my local MOT stattion is usually quite leinient, but the passenger chair rocks quite badly in my 205. Is ithis a failure? I Know I can fix it by fitting a 5 door subframe, but I have forgot the other way to do it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hengti 2 Posted November 21, 2007 guess it's going to depend upon what the tester thinks at the time. you could try tightening all of the bolts to be sure it's as good as it's going to be without a new subframe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,002 Posted November 21, 2007 Depends how bad it is, but if you're unsure you can always remove it - after all, you can't test what isn't fitted.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
large 33 Posted November 21, 2007 Just take it out for the mot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peetypug 5 Posted November 21, 2007 if you take the seat out dont you have to remove the seat belt as well? they will know your going to put the seat back in and and will think there must be something wrong with it but if there is no belt you can just say its easy access for the missus and the new born with it being a 3 door Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kanyeost 0 Posted November 21, 2007 My tester always used to complain about my seat stating that it was technically a failure but that he'd let it go because he couldn't fix it. I haven't managed to stop the rock completely but I did improve it by winding the little rubber feet out on the bottom of the seat as far as they would go and by adding thin washers under the little rubber feet on the bottom of the chair that rest on the subframe when the seat is down. Not too thick though or the seat doesn't lock back into position when you put it down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
large 33 Posted November 21, 2007 ^^^^^^ I dont think it will mater if you leave the belt in. It is just like removing a spare tyre if its a bit low on tread.If it's not in the car at the time of test they cant fail you for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28CRAIG 2 Posted November 21, 2007 As said check the bolts and wind the rubbers buffers out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,651 Posted November 21, 2007 I took my seats out and welded them up a bit, there are some areas where the catches locate that wear away, build the metal back up here and grind down to shape. ( I had a cracked back/forward handle which I had to weld anyway so I had a look to see what else I could do while it was off) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted November 22, 2007 Are the mounting bolts into the seat base all tight? Often its not much more than these being loose that cause the seat to rock & they only take 10 minutes to tighten back up for a solid seat. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daxed 7 Posted November 22, 2007 I failed an MOT due to a faulty subframe on the passenger seat, took the seat out, left the seat belt. Passed fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feb 47 Posted November 22, 2007 A bolt has been missing from mine, after the MOT tester put it back all has been well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McPikie 0 Posted November 22, 2007 I could do with whipping the seat out for a look, but this s*itty weather doesnt help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted November 22, 2007 Aside from the MOT the police can prosecute you for dangerous condition of vehicle. I got pulled over and had the seats checked by some clued up old school traffic police who knew what to look for in an old 205, unfortunately for them I had welded it up an hour beforehand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted November 22, 2007 I'm another victim of a failed MOT due to this problem What annoyed me is that it's more of a characteristic of 205's rather than a fault, and in my case it really wasn't that bad at all. I got hold of some 2nd hand subframes, and it passed the MOT then, even though there was barely any difference in them As for the police checks, it's lucky I never got stopped when I had 'floppy seat syndrome'! One of the welds on the actual seat frame snapped so my back rest would flop back a couple of inches on one side, leaving me sitting at an uncomfortable angle. I put up with that for ages until I got around to stripping the seats down to refurbish them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butchlad 0 Posted November 23, 2007 I took my old 205 in for an MOT with the passenger seat out and the belt still in. I know the MOT guys quite well, and they could see it was in the process of being rebuilt. He did tell me that technically he could have failed it, as there was a belt in it, but nowhere to plug it into. That seemed nothing short of ridiculous to me, and I'm sure most places would not bat an eyelid, but there may be pedantic testers out there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites