Guest chris_c201 Posted November 9, 2007 Guys, Had a search about and found various info on the cost of buying cages but can't see anything about costs for installation, maybe cos you guys tend to do it yourself! Can anyone provide a ball park figure of installing a bolt in or welded cage into a stripped out 205 GTi. Cheers, Chris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashley peddle 3 Posted November 9, 2007 i got prices from £500 + vat + fixing kit all the way down to £200 all inclusive... Im getting my cage fitted at safety devices next week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bren_1.3 1 Posted November 9, 2007 i got prices from £500 + vat + fixing kit all the way down to £200 all inclusive... not quite sure what you mean there? 500 quid for a multi-point weld-in plus fitting? or 200 quid for a simpler 6 point bolt in cage? a fixing kit is normally supplied with a rollcage aswell? although in the case of the OMP/sparco ones the fixing kits are toss, and i had new plates made up for mine for a tenner from the local blacksmiths. so if you go for a cage from these manufacturers be prepared to do at least some of the trial fitting work youself in order to keep costs down. if you can get as far as grinding off the paint and leaving fresh metal in the areas that will be welded, then you can save and cut down on costs quite dramatically. it depends also on what sort of cage it is, 6 point bolt-in or pre-fabbed multi-point weld-in, or a weld-in kit.... it goes without saying a simpler cage requires less work and so cheaper fitting costs. but your looking at a couple of hundred squid minimum in fitting something as simple as a 6 point bolt in, just because it a labourous process and not something that can be done in a day. it took a week to do mine myself, but i made sure it was fitted as best as it possibly could be inside the car. ideally all you want to do, if you cant weld it in youself, is to get as much of the preparation work done beforehand, so that all a garage has to do is turn on the gas and weld away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chris_c201 Posted November 9, 2007 not quite sure what you mean there? 500 quid for a multi-point weld-in plus fitting? or 200 quid for a simpler 6 point bolt in cage? a fixing kit is normally supplied with a rollcage aswell? although in the case of the OMP/sparco ones the fixing kits are toss, and i had new plates made up for mine for a tenner from the local blacksmiths. so if you go for a cage from these manufacturers be prepared to do at least some of the trial fitting work youself in order to keep costs down. if you can get as far as grinding off the paint and leaving fresh metal in the areas that will be welded, then you can save and cut down on costs quite dramatically. it depends also on what sort of cage it is, 6 point bolt-in or pre-fabbed multi-point weld-in, or a weld-in kit.... it goes without saying a simpler cage requires less work and so cheaper fitting costs. but your looking at a couple of hundred squid minimum in fitting something as simple as a 6 point bolt in, just because it a labourous process and not something that can be done in a day. it took a week to do mine myself, but i made sure it was fitted as best as it possibly could be inside the car. ideally all you want to do, if you cant weld it in youself, is to get as much of the preparation work done beforehand, so that all a garage has to do is turn on the gas and weld away. Thanks for the info so far guys, I was thinking the OMP 10 point bolt in cage... would this come with everything needed, what is the fixing kit? My thoughts were that i would have the car fully stripped and if necessary i'm sure i could grind down to metal roughly where the cage attaches to car. For the bolt in ones is it beneficial if they are spot welded around the mounting plates as well? I've not actually bought a car so may be lucky enough to land one with a cage already! If not i'll maybe be looking for further advice / decent places to get it done! For the seat mounts and harness points is this something you can do yourself or again should these really be welded in? Cheers Chris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bren_1.3 1 Posted November 9, 2007 I was thinking the OMP 10 point bolt in cage... would this come with everything needed, what is the fixing kit? My thoughts were that i would have the car fully stripped and if necessary i'm sure i could grind down to metal roughly where the cage attaches to car. For the bolt in ones is it beneficial if they are spot welded around the mounting plates as well? to me thats not really the idea of a bolt in cage and spot welding the feet to the mounting plates. The beauty of a bolt in cage is that you can simply unbolt it from the car and take it out if your changing shell, for instance in a fairly heavy rear end smack, in which the shell is ruined but the cage is fine. (or is allowed to be used by scrutineers after inspection) For the seat mounts and harness points is this something you can do yourself or again should these really be welded in OMP supply a solid bar to mount across the rear seat bolts. it means the seats quite high but thats how i like mine. if your on about seat mounts that are lower than the existing mounts then its a case of tack welding in profiled bars and getting the seat height and position just right for you and your passenger and then welding them in properly once its all fine and dandy. i wouldnt recommend bolting in seat mounting bars anywhere other than the mouting holes already in the shell, which is where the OMP bar mounts to. harness points are normally just the old threaded seat belt holes. if its a 6 point harness then the bottom eyelet that goes through the floorpan normally just has a load spreading plate that screws onto the eyelet. this mounting point doesnt require welding in, only securing with a nut and bolt. if you want harness bars on a cage, then ideally you want a roll cage that already has them fitted as standard. so something like the safety devices challenge spec cage. i wouldnt weld in harness bars to a cage that didnt have them simply because im not 100% confident in my own welding, so if you want them added make sure you go to somewhere reputable... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamP 0 Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) My thread shows the fitting of an OMP 10-pt. http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...=76939&st=0 Adam Edited November 9, 2007 by AdamP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kev-G 1 Posted November 10, 2007 Hi Chris, We can supply an OMP bolt-in cage for £335 delivered. We are in Fife and could also fit this for you. www.crombiecarversioncompany.com Cheers, Kev. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted November 10, 2007 Bren, i think what Ash means the difference in prices of places. SD are doing his cage for #200, but when ringing around, some places want #500 odd. And your right about the bolt in cages. In Ash's case, he had his cage installed to his old shell with the plates welded in as they should do. Couple years down the line, and decided to scrap the shell as its rottern, hence why hes getting his 6 pointer Sd cage fitted next week in his new shell Al Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chris_c201 Posted November 11, 2007 Kev, i've dropped you a PM, just wondering how much you would be all in, supplied and fitted.... Cheers Chris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bren_1.3 1 Posted November 11, 2007 Bren, i think what Ash means the difference in prices of places. SD are doing his cage for #200, but when ringing around, some places want #500 odd. ahhh right! im with you now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites