pugpete1108 62 1 Cars Posted October 15, 2007 just seen a xsi down my local and just wondered if anyone knew how easy the swap will be. i guess 1.9 shafts will fit?? or could i use the 306 ones? maybe too long i think duno really. do the 306 hubs mate up to the drop links and anti roll bar is the same places as on the 205? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted October 16, 2007 It depends on what age the 306 is because some have a larger balljoint which can't be changed on the 205 wishbones but they should all fit with 1.9 GTi driveshafts, 306 driveshafts are far to long to use on a 205. The arb & droplinks have no contact with the hubs so nothing changes whatever hubs you use. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 191 Posted October 16, 2007 Bear in mind also that the strut leans in slightly more on the 306, so the upright will reduce camber on the 205. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted October 16, 2007 Bear in mind also that the strut leans in slightly more on the 306, so the upright will reduce camber on the 205. That's interesting - by much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted October 16, 2007 1990 205 1.6 GTi; Camber- deg; 0"30'N - 0"30'P deg-1/100 0.50N - 0.50P Castor deg; 2"45' - 3"45' Deg 1/100; 2.75 - 3.75. 1990 205 1.9 Gti; Camber deg; 0"30'N - 0"30'P deg 1/100; 0.50n - 0.50P Castor- 2"20' - 3"20' deg- 1/100; 2.33-3.33. 306 2.0 16v Camber - deg; 0"50'N - 0"10'P deg 1/100 - 0.83N - 0.17P Castor- deg; 2"50 - 3"50' Castor 1/100; 2.83-3.83. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted October 16, 2007 Ah, so the 306 has roughly 20' more negative camber than the 205. Does the strut also lean in by 20' perhaps? Thanks for the figures btw Graham. Where did you find them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,003 Posted October 16, 2007 Autodata I'd assume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James_R 3 Posted October 16, 2007 those number are worthless until you know the distance between the turret top centre and the ball joint position at std ride height though rather than just the book numbers. surely :s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 191 Posted October 16, 2007 ^^^ Exactly, the 306 has virtually the same camber fitted, but the top mount to wheel centreline distance is greater. Not sure exactly how much, but it seems to manifest as about 25' positive at the wheel on the 205/309. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted October 16, 2007 Yeah, I got them from autodata but as made clear (unknown to me) they are worthless without all the info. Autodata does list the ride height though so I can post that if you want & it'll make any difference? Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugpete1108 62 1 Cars Posted October 17, 2007 what was i thinking you are totally right abou the drop link and arb what age should i be looking for then? it looks like a mk1 to me but cant really remember. if they fit is it really worth the upgrade?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28CRAIG 2 Posted October 17, 2007 In one word yes they are better than the 1.9 or 1.6 set up but what you gain in stopping power you loose in weight like with the gti6 set up but not as bad and you still get very good brakes that can cope easy with track use with good discs and pads so in my opinion they are better than the gti6 brakes on a 205. Any age will do as long as you have 1.9 hubs on your car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted October 17, 2007 Providing the hubs are off an early 306 xsi etc with a 16mm bottom ball joint bolt they should be fine. The later are 18mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugpete1108 62 1 Cars Posted October 18, 2007 Providing the hubs are off an early 306 xsi etc with a 16mm bottom ball joint bolt they should be fine. The later are 18mm what, a 16mm hole ? for the ball joint. cheeers guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
