kilauea 7 Posted October 5, 2007 Reposted due to forum DB crash - apologies to those who replied but I could not read your replies! I bought a new 1.9GTi and it has a couple of split hoses (two big ones attached to the firewall), and the rest do feel soft. Also the metal pipe is badly corroded. So I plan to replace all the coolant hoses with a silicon set and a new metal pipe. Just wanted to know how difficult this job is and if anyone has any tips for success? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BackStreetRacecars 3 Posted October 5, 2007 Buy lots of new jubilee clips and be prepared to cut all the old ones.. the job is fairly simple.Get a good set of water pump style pliers to loosen the coolant hoses from where they are attached also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted October 6, 2007 Reposted due to forum DB crash - apologies to those who replied but I could not read your replies! I bought a new 1.9GTi and it has a couple of split hoses (two big ones attached to the firewall), and the rest do feel soft. Also the metal pipe is badly corroded. So I plan to replace all the coolant hoses with a silicon set and a new metal pipe. Just wanted to know how difficult this job is and if anyone has any tips for success? Buy yourself a flexible hose clip driver if you dont already have one, for those hard to reach and awkward places for tightening up hose clips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilauea 7 Posted October 6, 2007 Excellent - didn't know such a tool existed till now! Thanks gents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilauea 7 Posted January 22, 2008 One piece of advice I did not get here. And if I had to pass on just one piece of advice to anybody else considering doing this job it would be... DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THE CLIPS Because I have tackled this "fairly simple" job myself without the above in mind, it has cost me a new expansion tank, a new radiator and now I have a chewed up pipe going to the heater matrix which I don't know what the f*** to do about. Presumably I need a new one those too and I have no idea how to get it out. So for some *realistic advice*.... if you are not an experienced mechanic, do not attempt this job yourself. It is not easy and you could cost yourself a lot of money damaging other parts. If you insist on doing it yourself, do not overtighten the clips. Now, anyone want to buy a half knackered 205 with tons of new parts because I am sick of the sight of it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McPikie 0 Posted January 22, 2008 Forcing things is not "the way forward", lol We all learn from our mistakes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilauea 7 Posted January 22, 2008 Forcing things is not "the way forward", lol We all learn from our mistakes I didn't think I did too much, but didn't realise how brittle the old plastic had become, and the aluminium pipes are very soft. Your right though, I won't be doing that again! I'm just coming round to forgiving it and trying to finish the job. Any idea whether the pipes coming through the bulkhead are replaceable or do I need to get the matrix out under the dash and do the whole thing? Can't find a decent schematic anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) yes you can replace the heater pipes separately, try here, official peugeot site; http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ Edited January 22, 2008 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) Dude, how the f*** did you manage to fubar that lot?! Have you been downing steriods like Penny Chews? LOL I was new to all this malarky once as well, and I've never managed to do damage when tightening hose clips, and I'm sure I've nipped a few up prettty tight before (in fact I specifically remember having an annoying dribble from my bottom rad hose and tightening it until the clip gave in and snapped!). You must have have been tighening those f***ers up like Popeye! By the way, there's a slim chance I may still have those metal heater matrix pipes kicking about in my parts collection and they are reasonably easy to replace. Edited January 22, 2008 by GLPoomobile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted January 22, 2008 very odd that, I've always had the clips give way before having them tight enough to damage any pipes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilauea 7 Posted January 22, 2008 yes you can replace the heater pipes separately, try here, official peugeot site; http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ Had a good look there - I can't find them seperately. Has anyone bought a heater matrix and did these pipes come with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilauea 7 Posted January 22, 2008 Dude, how the f*** did you manage to fubar that lot?! Have you been downing steriods like Penny Chews? LOL I was new to all this malarky once as well, and I've never managed to do damage when tightening hose clips, and I'm sure I've nipped a few up prettty tight before (in fact I specifically remember having an annoying dribble from my bottom rad hose and tightening it until the clip gave in and snapped!). You must have have been tighening those f***ers up like Popeye! By the way, there's a slim chance I may still have those metal heater matrix pipes kicking about in my parts collection and they are reasonably easy to replace. I honestly don't think I did it *that* hard. Ah, god knows maybe I am super-human and I just haven't worked it out yet. The pipe isn't just bent out of shape, its twisted and ripped. The pipe is very soft though. I am struggling to find those pipes anywhere so if you do have any kicking about they would be most appreciated. Or if anyone knows if they can be bought?... The most annoying thing is I spent the best part of a grand on suspension parts for it last night, and this is how it repays me!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilauea 7 Posted January 22, 2008 very odd that, I've always had the clips give way before having them tight enough to damage any pipes! Oh I can bend these pipes with my hands easy. So either mine are really soft or I am hercules! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted January 23, 2008 (edited) Right, I've got a pair of these pipes left over, which I'll happily send you for a quid to cover postage (or more if it comes to it, but doubt it would). The only thing is, I strongly recommend you use new O rings at the matrix end when fitting them as they leak like a c*nt otherwise (although I successfully used black sealant on these when I replaced my matrix). See below... It's part number 2 you need, which is listed on the Pug parts directory as Heater tap seal, diam 20. The part number is 6462 34. Hopefully it won't cost much, but knowing Pug they'll probably make you buy a bag of them rather than just one (unless it's in stock and they don't mind opening a bag). Obviously you need 1 on each pipe, but from your previous posts I'm assuming it's only one of the 2 pipes that you've shagged. EDIT: Link to parts website Now, how to replace the pipe: In the engine bay, remove the heater hose from both pipes and unbolt the metal flange that surrounds the pipes. If you can (I can't remember) pull the flange away and remove the rubber grommet behind it (if the flange won't come over the flared pipe ends then leave it place and withdraw the pipe outwards at this end once you've undone it at the other end inside the car). Get in the car and scrabble around on the floor under the dash. Up underneath the dash, next to the center console and above the pedals you should see where the pipes come down from the bulkhead and go in to the matrix. Trace the pipes down from the bulkhead and you should see/feel a small L shaped support bracket. IIRC it's only held on by 1 or 2 screws, but you will need a stubby screwdriver to get at them (well, I did). Remove the bracket. The pipes are held in to the matrix by 2 cap screws, and they can be a bugger to get at, but I managed it so it's hardly rocket science You can see in the picture above how there is another flange that the screws go through that presses the pipes firmly in to the matrix, sealing with the O rings. So undo these screws and then pull the pipes out of the matrix and withdraw them from the bulkhead. Fitment is the reversal of removal, remembering to fit new O rings, being careful not to round those delicate little screws in to the matrix, and NOT overtightening the hose clips P.S. I can't remember if the side of the matrix where the pipes enter is easily accessible with the center console in place. I think it is, but be warned that if it isn't you are going to have to partially dismantle the center console to give some free play so you can move it. P.P.S. Be prepared for coolant spillage when you remove the pipes. Stick some news paper on the floor and put a tub underneath to catch the coolant. Edited January 23, 2008 by GLPoomobile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilauea 7 Posted January 23, 2008 Damn it your a life saver! I would have been going to bed a bit miserable tonight. Will PM you my address and I am very happy to pay for the parts and the postage. It sounds fairly straight forward, although I am sure I will turn the garage air blue while attempting it.. Many thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
