joelpsmith 1 Posted September 29, 2007 Just got a re-manufactured driveshaft from Euro Car parts, and after about an hour of trying I still can't get the end to insert fully into the diff. The wheel end goes in no problem at all. I have tried a search on this forum and found the measurements of 26mm Diameter and 24 splines on the diff end and 27mm and 25 splines on the wheel end. This appears to match up to what I have but i don't have the original shaft to compare it with as i handed this over for the surcharge. has anyone had problems fitting a shaft from Euro Car Parts, i just can't see any reason why it wouldn't go. All the shops are shut now and i really wanted to get this finished today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hengti 2 Posted September 29, 2007 can't remember but is there a circlip in the end of the shaft? it might need pursuading in with a soft faced mallet - i'd be gentle though just in case it's not the right shaft (?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joelpsmith 1 Posted September 29, 2007 No, there is no circlip, heres a picture of the end. the only thing i can think of is that the spline look a little fat when you compare it to the grooves on the diff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sussex_gti 0 Posted September 29, 2007 new shafts can take a while to go in. I usually wind the nut on to the outer joint, put the socket over that and then tap it with a copper hammer.saves damaging the thread on the outer joint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil H 16 Posted September 30, 2007 Which side shaft is it, as inner ends are different for each side? Have you replaced the driveshaft oil seal for the wrong one? If drivers side shaft, have you turned the bolts on the intermediate bearing 90 degrees, so the bearing passes by their heads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted September 30, 2007 new shafts can take a while to go in. I usually wind the nut on to the outer joint, put the socket over that and then tap it with a copper hammer.saves damaging the thread on the outer joint. thats exactly what would i did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joelpsmith 1 Posted September 30, 2007 Which side shaft is it, as inner ends are different for each side? Have you replaced the driveshaft oil seal for the wrong one? If drivers side shaft, have you turned the bolts on the intermediate bearing 90 degrees, so the bearing passes by their heads? no its the passenger side shorter shaft so no intermediate bearing. It is just getting the splines in the diff that is the problem the oil seal hasn't been change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hengti 2 Posted September 30, 2007 have you tried thumping it in yet? ( ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremy 71 Posted September 30, 2007 I may be talking utter rubbish here. If you undid the gearbox oil filler nut would this not then release air pressure allowing the driveshaft to go into the dif fully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,666 Posted September 30, 2007 I may be talking utter rubbish here. If you undid the gearbox oil filler nut would this not then release air pressure allowing the driveshaft to go into the dif fully. a feasible thought, but theres a breather on the top of the box so it cant be that. is the other driveshaft out of the box by chance? on very early BE boxes the diff can drop if both shafts are removed, othetr than that there's nothing that can prevent the shaft from sliding in bar severe misalignment and incorreclty supplied parts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joelpsmith 1 Posted September 30, 2007 a feasible thought, but theres a breather on the top of the box so it cant be that.is the other driveshaft out of the box by chance? on very early BE boxes the diff can drop if both shafts are removed, othetr than that there's nothing that can prevent the shaft from sliding in bar severe misalignment and incorreclty supplied parts. I am reluctant to hit it hard, because its a quaife diff and i reallly don't want to damage the spline on it. The other shaft is still in place, so the diff can't have dropped down, and it is a later box, 1994 car. I have changed drive shafts before and never had to force them into place (except the intermediate bearing) they normally just slide it. I'm going to try and get my hands on a GKN shaft tomorrow and see how that goes, i'll report back. The only thing i can think of is that the shaft i have has not had the splines machined correctly to fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danpug 1 Posted September 30, 2007 Dosen't sound right to me, all the shafts i've fitted have slid straight in, bar the occasional drivers side one as you said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 245 3 Cars Posted September 30, 2007 I'd try another shaft, it should just slide in as already said & no force is needed to fit them. Certainly no need for a hammer!! If it won't go in, take it back & ask for another before resorting to forcing it in. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peetypug 5 Posted September 30, 2007 I'd try another shaft, it should just slide in as already said & no force is needed to fit them. Certainly no need for a hammer!! If it won't go in, take it back & ask for another before resorting to forcing it in. Graham. as above although most parts of a 205 need a hammer to fit/remove i would defo take it back and swap it first! it really doesnt sound right to me.... i've fitted quite a few new shafts and never had this problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan 99 Posted October 1, 2007 Any chance you've been given a base-model shaft by mistake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylorspug 7 Posted October 1, 2007 Ive had a couple that have take a while to locate properly into the box, although its never been more than a five minute 'take it out and put it back in a few times' sorta problem. I find it works if you take it out and slide the driveshaft round a spline or two, then try fitting it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted October 1, 2007 Just got a re-manufactured driveshaft from Euro Car parts. Talking from experience. I have had problems with miss match ends of splines from ECP. I spoke to Anthony about this, and basically i had been given a shaft (309 one) for one that had a spline from a really early 309 which are different to the later ones which were all use to. There was deffinatly a difference in spline though compairing it to ones that i had spare lying around. Thats what id do in your case Alastair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joelpsmith 1 Posted October 1, 2007 Thanks for all the replies. I got it sorted today by getting another shaft from GSF, this was a GKN branded one and slotted straight in without any problem. you can see in this picture below that the spline are slightly different. The GKN ones are more tapered which is obviously correct, so be care full what you buy. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/joe...th/IMG_2052.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
