brianthemagical 1 Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) i went to check my gearbox oil and this is what greated me. the otherside's slightly better. they're egal f1's and i've got 309 wishbones. any idea whats happend as the shoulder isn't level with the rest of the tyre so it's not just straight line general driving. is ita case of the inside wheel draging? or am i not pushing hard enough? the other question are they likely to still be usable? will the be ok on the back? thanks. Edited September 14, 2007 by brianthemagical Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nathan 0 Posted September 14, 2007 That looks like its down to the canvas! If it is don't drive on it any more as its very dangerous and if the cops pull you over you'll get 3 points per tyre. Problem is that your tracking is way out (due to fitting the 309 set up). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,003 Posted September 14, 2007 Yup, tracking would be my first suspicion - most likely alot of toe-out (which is what you'd get if you didn't re-track the car after fitting the 309 stuff!) As said, they're very illegal now and if you get caught by the police they'll take a very dim view indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthemagical 1 Posted September 14, 2007 is that as in toe? so it's kind of been draging the edge of the tyre? it's not massivly out as i adjusted it when i fitted the wishbones but it's obviously enough. oh well, i'd better get fixig then. thanks for the reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nathan 0 Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) Toe in is when the front of the wheel is pointing towards the centre line of the car, toe out (which you have) is when the front of the tyre points out from the centre line of the car. Easy enough to check what you have by running lengths of string down the side of the car (must pass through the centre line of the wheels) with the wheels dead ahead you can then measure the distance from the rim edge to the string and then adjust accordingly. Edited September 14, 2007 by Nathan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skeggyrik 3 Posted September 14, 2007 That tyre is now Junk, if that's what it looks like it has worn through to the carcass fo the tyre. Get your tracking checked, it will be out for it to scrub thge insides like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hengti 2 Posted September 14, 2007 just out of interest, would you not expect a little wear on the inner edge due to the negative camber 309 arms or should tyres wear fairly evenly with the set-up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,003 Posted September 14, 2007 just out of interest, would you not expect a little wear on the inner edge due to the negative camber 309 arms or should tyres wear fairly evenly with the set-up? On the 205's I've had with 309 front running gear, they've always worn the tires evenly - running 205 wishbones I always prematurely kill the outer edge of the tires though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted September 14, 2007 On the 205's I've had with 309 front running gear, they've always worn the tires evenly - running 205 wishbones I always prematurely kill the outer edge of the tires though... Agreeed. God knows how many sets of eagle F1s i've been through. Tracking on a 205 with 309 setup is vital, or else it will just be crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted September 14, 2007 Tracking on a 205 with 309 setup is vital, or else it will just be crap. Thats very true. I've just fitted loads of new bushes etc and a set of F1s on my pug and its worse than when I started. I had it tracked just a few weeks ago but I didn't realise my wishbone bushes were shot and now they are replaced everything sits differently and it is clearly miles out, it pulls left hard, the wheel isn't straight when it is going in a straight line anymore and at any more than 40 it feels very unstable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthemagical 1 Posted September 14, 2007 it's know got a new track rod on the o/s and i've tracked itas best i could (which, from experiance ain't that good) so can i have oppinions as to what it loks like till i can get it done properly? thanks. to me it looks slightly toe out but using a long pole on the rear wheels they are both set at 0. whe i put the 309 wishbones on i did alter the tracking as it as way out, i guess it just was no where near right. i was waiting to get another n/s t/r with the ball joint boot before i got the car tracked but this time i'll get it done asap. photo 1 photo 2 photo three thanks again for the help. the tyre that are on ih the three photos will be coming off, they were just the first i had to hand for the tracking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted September 14, 2007 When I fitted my 309 stuff last month I adjusted the track rod ends out by approx 10mm each side & althoguh it drove Ok to the garage to have it set correctly once up on the ramp with the guages fitted it was miles out!! Get it checked professionally asap. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
