Grp A Beam Kit

[dodsworth_gti 11]

hi

 

i did a search but found nothing

 

im probably been thick here,but i got a bbm beam kit,and working out where stuff go's before i do it,and i cant work out with the white plastic bits go

 

please help lol

 

many thanks

 

ben

[Baz 421]

In the front mounts, unbolt the top mounts that actually bolt to the car from the beam, and you'll see some similar looking cylindrical rubbery mounts, get them out (any bloody way you can) and the polyurethane white ones go in there.

[tri_longer 25]

Burn 'em out with a blow-torch, then hacksaw the remaining metal collet, so it splits and then hit with a chisel/hammer to get it out.

 

I hope your not a dentist by profession

[Rik 0]

There like a tophat bush so you need to cut the ends off then press them out - can be done in 20 mins.

 

I dont know why everyone makes a massive fuss about them being really hard to get out!

[philfingers 5]

http://www.205gtidrivers.com/articles.php?...-rearbeammounts

 

Here!

[GLPoomobile 958]

There like a tophat bush so you need to cut the ends off then press them out - can be done in 20 mins.

 

I dont know why everyone makes a massive fuss about them being really hard to get out!

 

 

Because if you are unlucky enough to get an awkward beam and you don't happen to have a press to hand etc, then they ARE f***ing hard to get out!!

 

Mine was done out on the public road, no where near my flat, so resources where limited. Myself and a mate used a blowtorch, hammers, mallets, chisels, punches and screwdrivers and it was a complete struggle. In my case the metal bush sleeves were coroded to the point that they were virtually welded in to the beam, and these were bushes which looked to be in nearly new condition.

 

In all it took us 9 hours of hard slogging to do the job (which included removing and refitting the beam), but I appreciate this is just my experience and a lot of people find the job goes much easier and quicker than this. I guess if we had had the option of taking the beam to a garage we could have got the sleeves pressed out.

 

I don;t think I'd do the job again myself.

[sonofsam 5]

I hope your not a dentist by profession

 

lol! No an Engineer

 

I knew GLP would give his 'speech'

[GLPoomobile 958]

lol! No an Engineer

 

I knew GLP would give his 'speech'

 

speech? LOL!

 

Sorry, but it does annoy me when someone says something is easy just because they happen to have the right tools for the job (or better tools than the basics required, I should say) and the right knowledge, or they were simply lucky to have everything go smoothly.

 

Every job on a 205 can be a nightmare if something doesn't go smoothly, and I'm sure I'm not alone in being with out a garage and a massive supply of tools,least of all access to a hydraulic press! So if you are going to do this job using brute force as i'm sure most of us have, you may find it easy, but don't say I didn't warn you if those bushes decide to be a complete bitch. Oh, and FYI, the 1st of the 4 came out a piece of piss. Great! we thought. It was the remaining 3 that decided they weren't going to play ball. Little bastards!

Edited August 25, 2007 by GLPoomobile

[BERTMAN 40 1 Cars]

haha, i didnt find it that hard and i have f*** all tools left , GLP maybe your just crap?

 

haha, only messin i did it on a perfect nick rear beam in my garage lol

Edited August 25, 2007 by BERTMAN

[Jrod 7]

Once you get the first one out on each side you can just use a socket+extension bar and a hammer and smack the other 2 out from the inside.

[swordfish210 20]

when i did mine i burnt the bushes out (blowtorch and plenty of brake cleaner) and once they were out i knew that those sleves were seized in solid so instead of spending X amount of hours trying in vain to get them out i simply took the bushes to a friends house and i turned 3mm off of the bushes on his lathe. Easy Peasey

[sonofsam 5]

If you find they are seized, you could try heating up the outer casing some what with the blow lamp, as this should supply

some sort of expansion then try again(strike while the irons hot!), when I said cutting with a hacksaw, I passed the blade through the outer metal part then reattached the handle and cut that way

Remember to clean up any burr's or scurf marks you may of made before inserting the new ones.

Edited August 27, 2007 by sonofsam

[GLPoomobile 958]

I realise I'm the only one on here who ever sticks their hand up and says 'I've done this, and I struggled' but I think it is valuable to show both sides of the story. I just think anyone attempting this should be prepared. Yes, I admit I am crap but my mate is far more mechanically adept than I, and we both struggled. Also, the bulk of the work for us was brute force, i.e. trying to smash the f*** out of the sleeves, and whilst I'm only slightly built he is a much bigger guy and a builder by trade. Yet still we struggled.

 

Yes, we did cut the sleeves with a hacksaw. Yes, we did heat them with a blow torch. Yes, we did use a socket in the opposite side (once the 1st sleeve was removed) to try and bash it out. None of these made the damndest bit of difference because they were coroded solid. We had to literally peel the sleeves away bit bit bit by hammering old screwdrivers/chisels/punches under a raised edge and peening it out. There were times when we were both taking it in turns to hammer away for ages at one little bit and it simply resisted for ages before eventually giving up and peeling away. So all I'm saying is that if anyone comes across this scenario, don't piss about for hours like we did, take it somewhere that can press them out (if you can).

 

I decided to do the job having read up on here before hand, and I was under the impression that it would take about 4-5 hours from beam off to beam on. I roped in my mate to help me as a favour. We only had the one day to get it done as I needed the car for work, and due to a late start (after driving across london to pick him up and go back to mine) we eventually got cracking at about 2pm. We finally finished at about 11pm. I don't think the neighbours were too impressed

 

So you can say what you like about me being crap, or always being Mr Negative and a whinge blah blah blah, but I wish I had had a more balanced view before attempting it. Seemingly I'm still the only person on here to admit that I had a mother s*itter of a time doing this job, but if my experience helps anyone else avoid wasting their time or end up being stuck without their car etc as it's taking longer than expected, then I think my constant moaning has been worth it

Edited August 27, 2007 by GLPoomobile

[Pugnut 9 1 Cars]

essential bush replacement tool:

[philfingers 5]

Well I take my hat to you for perservering. In the past I've done jobs with mole grips, a lump hammer and a big srewdriver. With no facilites, no light, lying out in the cold (I did my beam in the snow). Now I wouldn't do it and I have resonable access to facilities with a big vice etc and have built my self a very good tool kit.

Sometimes you have to make the most of what you have, good on you for doing it!

 

Phil