Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) ok, earlier i had the fuel pump running, but now it's not, it is working as i sent power to it, but even doing this while trying to start it it dont fire up. just turns over thats all i have put a multimetre on the fuel pump wire and there is no power. it hasn't got a lambda sensor at all, ( not sure if it needs this to start) i'm assuming it still unlocked ( to unlock , the gti-6 donor car was running then just unplugged ecu) is there a fuel pump fuse or relay i can check???? Edited August 11, 2007 by Spiky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 11, 2007 I assume that when you fitted the loom you kept the injection double relay? are you getting spark? if it is fitted bridge pins 1 to 11 on the plug with a multimeter, ignition on, the pump should come on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 double injection relay? where's that? what colour? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 ah on the gti-6 loom, big relay with red lockinh mechanism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) black, 15 pin relay near the ECU on the engine loon. had to replace the one on my 205 with Motronic yesterday, RRP for the GTi6 one is £36... yep thats the bugger!! Edited August 11, 2007 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 bridged 1 and 11 no pump???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 11, 2007 hmm, verry odd! check at the pump end, are you gettign ticking at the injectors? fuse 15 still ok? youre in the garage right now arent you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 hmm, verry odd! check at the pump end, are you gettign ticking at the injectors? fuse 15 still ok? youre in the garage right now arent you! yeah i have the internet in here no ticking from injectors i only have a 14 fuses in my fuse box inside i found this on GTI-6 forum The main wire most people forget is that you need to wire an ignition switched 12v to the double relay that controls fuel pump, coils, and injectors. I think from memory that it's pin 14 on the relay but can't totally remember. There's a pin out of the relay in the FAQ section on here though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) ahh bugger, I've left my 306 haynes manual in my brothers car!ignition switched is the big red wire in the 205 loom. (2A IIRC) fuel pump fuse in the glivebox is the blue one on the right hand end. Edited August 11, 2007 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 ok i just brideged pin 5 and 8 WITHOUT the ignition on and fuel pump runs as per http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.ph...9993&page=1 but in thst post is said it should come on when i put ignition on? mine runs with out ignition on? but does it mean it's still the relay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 ok i just brideged pin 5 and 8 WITHOUT the ignition on and fuel pump runs as perhttp://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.ph...9993&page=1but in thst post is said it should come on when i put ignition on? mine runs with out ignition on?but does it mean it's still the relay? Inertia switch?i pressed it and it seems in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 11, 2007 Inertia switch? good point! forgot about that, just press the top in on it, it should click if its been triggered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.ph...4&page=last as per that thread i'm going to run a switch live to pin 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) sounds good, i've got a relay in front of me, 14 looks like a trigger, and closes the contacts between 5 and 8. similarly 2 is a trigger and will close contacts between 11 and 1. Edited August 11, 2007 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 IT FOOKING RUNS it needed power to that realy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 thanks for all the help, really really appreciate it, mind you probably fed up of me posting asking for help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smighall 1 Posted August 11, 2007 I'm sure i'd posted that pin14 thing on this forum too. Oh well glad you got it sorted, it took me ages trying to work out why mine wouldn't run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 11, 2007 i found it on the gti-6 forum, it may even had been one of your posts i need to find out why i never wired it up? unless this wouldn't have been part of the 19pin connector? and is an extra wire needed but i dint see how the gti-6 would power this, so must be part of the 19 pin connector Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smighall 1 Posted August 11, 2007 Yeah it was my post on the 306 site, i'm on there much more than here. I could never find the wire and also wasn't too fussed as i was getting very fed up with it not running, so just ran a new wire for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites