Spiky 37 Posted August 1, 2007 been recommended to get magnex but what else to do people recommend????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted August 1, 2007 You only really need a back box. The 6 exhaust manifold is good enough/work of art, and it being long enough that you have to chop a down pipe up, it seems pointless buying a stainless perfomance one if it has to be chopped up, and is they're really any gain? Plus the standard down pipes and mid sections can cope with 200+ bhp proven. So a back box for looks and a little noise Alastair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
large 33 Posted August 1, 2007 Have you thought about a longlife only in Cardiff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 1, 2007 (edited) yep, I'd highly recommend them, from seeing what DES developments did recenmtly for a 200bhp carbed MI16 i'd reccomend a good sized centre section (length wise not diameter) 2" 1/4 pipe to a backbox (doesnt need to be too big) and 1"7/8 ths tailpipe, IIRC it was measured at 86 decibels but with a sweet note. (mid to back box pipe MAY be 2", I will try to find out for you) Edited August 1, 2007 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 2, 2007 (edited) alistair so what ya saying, is use my std 205 one and then change the back section? will i actully gain from that? as the part of the mid section is on 1"1/4 ????welshpug,please can you get info? and price please :)alistairso what ya saying, is use my std 205 one and then change the back section? will i actully gain from that? as the part of the mid section is on 1"1/4 ???? welshpug, please can you get info? and price please Edited August 2, 2007 by Spiky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted August 2, 2007 I don't think its so much the case of losing power, but more of not losing any! My understanding is that you won't lose anything from a good standard exhaust, like an OE pug or an Arvin-Mettler one as they are very well designed. Coupled with the gti-6 exhaust manifold it should be great. I think Maxi was even running a cheap Bosal exhaust, and that didn't restrict the power on his extensively modified engine. However, are you looking for it to be a bit louder as Alastair says? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted August 2, 2007 I think its more of a question what do you want out of it? Alastair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 2, 2007 I think its more of a question what do you want out of it? Alastair well i certianlly dont want a restrictive exhaust i dont want a loud one, as i want to get on ANY track, without having to worry about noise making any 205 exhause fit is not a problem, as i have a lot of faith in my mate with a welder, i just need a 205 exhaust that is best for my conversion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted August 2, 2007 Then they'res no real need to go to one of these make your own personal exhaust companies when you've got a mate whos good. Mine is a standard item without the split but with a standard back box. Although if i can track down a magnex back box i'll chuck that on for looks really, and maybe get rid of the mid section (its rather low ), and they're not really that loud, so you should be fine for track. Trust me, they're not restrictive considering what cars you can go past with a 6 lump in a 205, and i know Maxi was having a long discussion ages ago about his standard pipe when running 216 bhp Alastair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 2, 2007 so basically fit my std exhuast back on and maybe replace the back box if one pops up but remove the split section in the down pipe??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted August 2, 2007 details as requested Spiky; http://www.des-developments.com/ there arent any details of the exhaust on their site yet, but there is a thread on PSOOC.com detailign prices and a few pics and testimonials. http://www.pughosting.co.uk/forum/showthre...ght=des+exhaust here's a quote from Neal 22/4/07 Our revised GpN system incorporating 2 1/4" front section, 2" rear and back box and 1 7/8" tailpipe has now been tested. On a 205 mi16 with twin 45 DHLA carbs and standard downpipe, a slight increase in torque at the top end has been achieved over the Pug Sport item at the expense of a small amount of low down torque. The system was noise tested independantly at Castle Coombe at 88db making it very quiet while giving better top end performance. Best of both worlds!! Price for centre and rear section is £225+VAT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted August 2, 2007 so basically fit my std exhuast back on and maybe replace the back box if one pops up but remove the split section in the down pipe??? Personally thats what id do. Spend the money on some more fun mods for a track car, like some bigger torsion/Arb bars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted August 2, 2007 I was going to get the DES stainless Group N the other week, but my AFM went tits the day I was supposed to drive up there. The current mild steel group N mid pipe (also from DES) has a big hole which I think was due to a coming together with a log that bent the pipe and ripped the hanger off I can also tell you that they want £18 for postage for the system, but will fit it for free if you are a PSOOC member. Although Neil still offered me free fitting when I said I was only a member of 'drivers'. But now I'm thinking it's not really worth shelling out nearly £300 on a new system. I might just either get another mild steel mid section (which are peanuts IIRC) or maybe get an OE mid section and back box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 402 1 Cars Posted August 14, 2007 has anyone actually tried the actual (standard) GTI6 backbox? or is it perhaps too long to fit under the 205? i've got one in my garage and i've been thinking of fitting it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted August 14, 2007 interesting currently i have modified a std exhaust to fit, hoping this wont cuse ny problems? will changing just the back box make much difference? as the middle section will still be a small pipe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites