Mi16 And Power Steering?

[ORB 227 1 Cars]

I am building an MI into a Sorrento car with PAS.

 

I dont much want to use power steering, and I cant be bothered with the hassle of trying to adapt the old system to the BX engine I am using.

 

If I just remove all the power parts from my rack (pipes, pump and resovoir) will it be ok? will it just run like a standard non power rack?

 

Or, will i have to go and hunt out an new (second hand) rack with out power (i hope not as I threw one out last month)

 

Here are some pics. (not that they help, its just pics are nice)

 

 

[Ryan 99]

If you take off all the PAS stuff then it will work fine as a manual system. The only thing is that the PAS rack has fewer turns lock-to-lock than the non-PAS rack so the steering will feel heavier than a non-PAS.

[ORB 227 1 Cars]

But I take it that it is only really a disaster if you are parking or 'dry steering' ?

 

Not at warp factor 10?

[Richie-Van-GTi 73 2 Cars]

yes only noticeable at a crawl or stand still, like a quick rack at speed though. Just make sure the ram is taken off or its an MOT failure.

[ORB 227 1 Cars]

without me looking, is that difficult?

[jackherer 543]

not hard to do at all, just unbolt it all then block the pipe holes on the rack.

[BuD 0]

Remove the nut (18mm?) and the bolt (17mm?). Shown removed.

 

 

Also these 2 pipes have to removed.

 

 

The pipes are a bit awkward but not too bad.

 

I think the 'stud' in the first picture has to remain sticking out (I am using the PAS so didnt really look too hard). You could grind it off but I wouldnt!

 

I dont suppose you could take a pic of how the metal low presure 'cooling' section of the power steering pipe goes on the car could you? It wasnt obvious when I looked breifly the other day. I am adding PAS to a non PAS car

 

EDIT: Jackherer beat me too it

Edited July 23, 2007 by BuD

[Dream Weaver 2]

I've just put mine back on after removing it during the engine swap, so I had PAS when I bought the car, then took it off but didn't like it, so put it back on

 

I'm so much happier with the car now as it feels 10x better than without the PAS at low speeds but no different at high speeds. On my car it wasn't just parking and getting it in and out of my tight garage that caused issues - any sort of slow speed corner, hairpin or roundabout meant me having to prepare both hands to actually turn the wheel and I'm no skinny weed either It was a real pain to steer like that.

 

Just need to sort the leaks out now and al lwill be well again in my 205 world

Edited July 24, 2007 by Dream Weaver

[DaveK 0]

yeah it will be fine mate. My PAS was knackered for ages and although it was heavy it wasnt unbearable. Mine passed the MOT with the pump and ram etc all still fitted aswell

 

Depends if your MOTer is nice i spose hehe

[Anthony 1,003]

I've been running a PAS rack with the PAS bits removed for the past 20000 miles or so, and I don't find the steering excessively heavy even at parking speed - once on the move it's fine and the quicker rack is a massive improvement over the slow non-PAS rack (even though it's "only" half a turn less lock to lock)

[Redtop 14 2 Cars]

Would have to agree with Antony. I have a pas in one of my gti's with ram still attached and passed mot but maybe if the tester wanted to be awkward he maybe could of failed it? It's not that much heavier when parking compaired to my non pas gti. Remove all the pipes and block up the pipes and clean up the fluid so it's a tidy job.

[pug_ham 245 3 Cars]

I also have to agree with Anthony, I drive my GTi has a PAS rack with assitance removed & my STDT with PAS still fitted occasionally back to back & tbh there really isn't a massive amount of difference at any speed on either car which both have the same wheels & tyres.

 

A PAS rack with the pump, ram, stud & pipes removed can still cause an MOT failure but it's all down to the tester.

 

Graham.

[rjw205 8 3 Cars]

perhaps i have a problem with mine then... it seems massively heavy... like I'm trying to haul up a ship's anchor!! I'm worries at the low speeds, that it will suddenly take a disliking to me and snap off!! Thata how heavy it seems, the whole dash flexes.. but like dream weaver, I'm no skinny weed.

 

Perhaps I'm just not committed enough haha

 

Rich

[BuD 0]

This is wild speculation but could totally blocking the pipe work holes on the power rack cause a resistance from pressure?? EDit (maybe only if some fluid remained..)

Edited July 26, 2007 by BuD