madspikes 41 1 Cars Posted July 12, 2007 I've just restarted the pug after 12 months of it just being sat there, and it smokes like a good'en! I've pulled a could of plugs out and there really wet and the oil is going creamy. But heres the twist, i've removed all the inlet manifold studs and just as a temp measure put a couple of bolts in to hold the inlet manifold on so the seal isnt fantastic. I've just noticed that a couple of the bolt holes are rusty, does this mean that where i've removed the bolts, water could be escaping into the inlet manifold and cylinders. Any ideas Mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted July 12, 2007 coolant flows through the inlet so if the gasket isn't sealing coolant can go straight into the inlet ports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madspikes 41 1 Cars Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) coolant flows through the inlet so if the gasket isn't sealing coolant can go straight into the inlet ports. Thanks for the reply.... However I havent seen any holes in the inlet for the coolent to flow, but on closer inspection of the cylinder head / inlet gasket it must have been leaking... due to the puddle of water under the car! Edited July 12, 2007 by madspikes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exile 0 Posted July 12, 2007 There are inlets with and without holes for coolant, but there are always holes in head. I don't believe, that faulty inlet sealant makes oil creamy, but it's easy to change and cheap, so You should do it, but IMHO it won't change a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey S 29 1 Cars Posted July 12, 2007 i agree with exile here. i would at least get it running again with some fresh oil in it and see if it does the same thing. coolant can only get into the oil via 3 ways, headgasket, oil cooler or liner seals, but i doubt it would be the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthemagical 1 Posted July 12, 2007 coolant can only get into the oil via 3 ways, headgasket, oil cooler or liner seals, but i doubt it would be the latter. or through the inlet manifold from the coolant passages that heat up the inlet manifold it isn't done up tight enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey S 29 1 Cars Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) or through the inlet manifold from the coolant passages that heat up the inlet manifold it isn't done up tight enough. that doesnt explain how it would get into the oil? it would get into the cylinders but not the sump. Edited July 12, 2007 by pugger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madspikes 41 1 Cars Posted July 13, 2007 Humm... maybe doom and gloom... and what a day to being play with cars friday the 13th! I'm hoping that water is getting into the oil through the cylinders... i.e that water is getting into the cylinders it is just seeping past the rings... However i've just had a thought... if there was toooo much water in the cylinders, and water doesnt compress to well, I now could have well really broken something! Bugger. Taking the afternoon off to try and find out whats wrong.... All this, and I haven't connected the supercharger on yet: Mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,003 Posted July 13, 2007 When you say that the oil is going creamy, are you just refering to the filler neck and breather pipes? You're bound to get some mayo in there in a car that's been sat - most of it should clear after a few miles with hot oil. They'll also be alot of condensation in the exhaust so a few minutes of white smoke would kinda be expected as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted July 13, 2007 I've just restarted the pug after 12 months of it just being sat there, and it smokes like a good'en! I've pulled a could of plugs out and there really wet and the oil is going creamy. But heres the twist, i've removed all the inlet manifold studs and just as a temp measure put a couple of bolts in to hold the inlet manifold on so the seal isnt fantastic. I've just noticed that a couple of the bolt holes are rusty, does this mean that where i've removed the bolts, water could be escaping into the inlet manifold and cylinders. Any ideas Mad. this is what I found on a pug hat puffed A LOT of white "smoke" and occasionally misfired on start up. Wrong gasket had been fitted, but it's fine now with instant gasket to seal it. (shame I removed the engine before finding this ) So, yes, I reckon water could well be getting into your bores. As the car's been sat for a while I should think it worth changing the oil. As said condensation may be the culprit. All cheap and easy enough to test,though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) I've just restarted the pug after 12 months of it just being sat there, and it smokes like a good'en In my experience with a few 205s etc. When a car that has been sat that long it will smoke, and for example my old Cherry orange 1.6 did. Took it 20 miles for a good italian tune to the mot, and ran spot on. So id put it back together, and see how it is then Alastair Edited July 13, 2007 by Alastairh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madspikes 41 1 Cars Posted July 13, 2007 Its good news!!!! Removed the inlet manifold and put some instant gasket around it (new gasket will be fitted later), jobs a good'em, no more smoke! Changed the oil, which looked like ditch water, now the oil is nice and clean! I also did a compression test, and they all read around the 14 on the tester which isnt too bad, I think ( need to do some search to check on this). Thanks for the replys... mad. PS. The car still isnt running right... But thats another story! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madspikes 41 1 Cars Posted July 13, 2007 The colour of the oil I drained out of the pug this afternoon, before I started the car is was a nice clean gold colour! The black bits, are from what was left in the bowl from the time before..... Mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrwn8304 0 Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) Make sure you put plenty anti-freeze in or you'll have problems later with head gasket or corrosion on the liners, I learned this 2 years ago, got the head all done and forgot to put anti-freeze and 1 yr later the gasket went all because of no anti-freeze Edited July 14, 2007 by Andrwn8304 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
