205007 12 Posted June 20, 2007 Im having not a lot of success in trying to get some of these made to my specification if anyone can help i need the following in this design to bolt to a std peugeot hub 4x 108 but with 5x114 stud pattern holes machined on the outside to take a different wheel i also need them appx 25mm thick or maybe 30mm i thought maybe i could get a drawing made up and take it to an engineering place but maybe someone on here can help out? or if anyone knows a company and can point me in the righ direction that would be ace im not sure if the different stud patterns will be possible on 1x piece of metal if that makes sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pugnut 9 1 Cars Posted June 20, 2007 peugeot ecosse are renowned for being expensive but they are experts at fitting pretty much any wheel to a 205 . even 5 studs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) I could probably help, do you know any of the spacers dimensions? Internal, external diameters? Edited June 20, 2007 by Powers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted June 20, 2007 can you not just drill and tap new holes in the pug hubs? or will the offset still be wrong? I have seen what you describe advertised on the internet, though I'm not sure about 4 to 5 bolt, though the Ecosse 206 that was at pugfest last year ran 5 bolt wheels so as someone mentioned earlier it#'d be worth a word with them to see how they did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205007 12 Posted June 20, 2007 not at the minute but i can try and sort out the measurements do you just want the max diameter of the spacer and the minimum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted June 20, 2007 Just the inside diameter- which i think is around 57mm and the outside diameter. I will show you a picture in 25 mins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) Sorry pal, it cant be done! The 4 x 108 are shown with the chamfered seat. Edited June 20, 2007 by Powers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allanallen 528 2 Cars Posted June 20, 2007 Sorry pal, it cant be done! The 4 x 108 are shown with the chamfered seat. i was just about to draw this up, beaten to it though. you could look into having the holes in the original hub welded up then tap the correct 5 stud pattern into it then you could buy or make up the spacers. I'd happily machine the holes for you if you can get the originals welded up (as my weldings pretty wank), al Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) Good old solidworks! I would just buy the correct wheel fitment. Edited June 20, 2007 by Powers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allanallen 528 2 Cars Posted June 20, 2007 Good old solidworks! I would just buy the correct wheel fitment. solidworks??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted June 20, 2007 The cad program i used, what program were you going to use? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allanallen 528 2 Cars Posted June 21, 2007 The cad program i used, what program were you going to use? I'm old skool boyo, when i said draw.... i meant draw! not used cad since college, i'm just a button pushin cnc monkey nowadays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_Fowler 0 Posted June 24, 2007 Weld up, then put new holes and thread in partially overlaping with the welds to hold your wheels on! This is not safe please don't do it! Tom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted June 24, 2007 Would another solution be to use a 5 stud hub and machine this up/down to fit the 205 bearings and try and be a bit 'lucky' with the driveshaft spline fitment?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28CRAIG 2 Posted June 24, 2007 I am sure i read some time ago you can strip a 406 5 stud hub and use part 406 and part 205 that would do the trick but i might be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie-Van-GTi 71 2 Cars Posted June 24, 2007 new pugs from the 07 range use 5 stud hubs, might be worth seeing if one of them will fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboy666 195 1 Cars Posted June 24, 2007 i'm sure i've seen a company who claim to make 4 to 5 stud adapters, they had some 4x108 to 4x100 adapters on ebay and in there ad said they could make up pretty much any combination, unfortunately i cant find them on ebay at the mo but its worth having a check every so often, they were veeeryy expensive tho i think around £320 or so for a full set depending on width and stud patterns etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboy666 195 1 Cars Posted June 24, 2007 on closer inspection i found this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-CADDY-to-POR...1QQcmdZViewItem but then you would have to get some adapters to change to 4x100 first (which i think come in a tminimum of 20m) mand you could end up with a very silly offset with all those adapters approximately an extra 43mm or so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars Posted June 24, 2007 The Vdub boys run Porsche wheels which are 5 stud. I have seen a Skoda Fabia with Porsche 928 wheels before! 605 hubs may be an option? I have some 307 hubs but they are 4 stud too and a totally different design as to how the strut mounts (bolted on, not pinched on) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d-9 0 Posted June 24, 2007 pug 605 has 5 stud hubs, no idea if theyd fit thou. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) Im having not a lot of success in trying to get some of these made to my specification if anyone can help i need the following in this design to bolt to a std peugeot hub 4x 108 but with 5x114 stud pattern holes machined on the outside to take a different wheel Ford Probe >91 5 x 114.3 35...38 59.5 Probe 92> 5 x 114.3 35...38 67.0 Transit Connect 5 x 114.3 45..52 Honda Shuttle, Odysee 5 x 114.3 35...38 64.0 CRV 5 x 114.3 40...45 64.0 Integra Type R 5 x 114.3 45...50 64.0 Legend 94> 5 x 114.3 35...38 70.0 Freelander 5 x 114 35 Nissan 200SX >94, Bluebird, Prairie, Primera 4 x 114.3 35...42 66.0 200SX 94>, 300ZX, Maxima, Serena 5 x 114.3 35...42 66.0 Toyota Camry 91>, MR2 91>, Picnic, Previa, RAV4, Supra 92> 5 x 114.3 35...38 60.0 Hi-Ace 5 x 114.3 18...20 67.0 daewoo Leganza 5 x 114.3 35...42 56.5 Peugeot 605XM 5 x 108 35 65.0 Edited June 24, 2007 by sonofsam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricdat 0 Posted June 25, 2007 The Vdub boys run Porsche wheels which are 5 stud. I have seen a Skoda Fabia with Porsche 928 wheels before! I went to johnnyboy666's link and see that the reason they work on VWs is that the Porsche's 5 studs are on a much bigger pcd than the VW's 4 studs. Therefore the new holes go around the outside of the old ones - instead of overlapping holes, like shown in Powers' drawing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted June 25, 2007 You could convert from 5*108 pcd as found on some Peugeot models to 5*114 pcd easily. I just dont understand why you want all the hassle, oh an expense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205007 12 Posted June 25, 2007 because i have some very nice 5x114 stud wheels and tyres free if i can get them to fit! seems like too much chew on though so ill probably just leave it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ORB 227 1 Cars Posted June 25, 2007 just glue the wheels on. get the prit stik out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
