zowow 0 Posted May 27, 2007 Hey all anyone know of a guide/post that tells you what wires/pipes go where, as i've got so far and im completely lost on what goes where injector wiring is sorted, its more these and what goes to the starter and what goes to the alternator etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted May 27, 2007 I think that is the sensor wiring loom isn;t it? If so, do a search for 'brown multiplug' and you should find a few topics where it is discussed and tells you what wires are for what based on colour and pin position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted May 27, 2007 (edited) I think that is the sensor wiring loom isn;t it? If so, do a search for 'brown multiplug' and you should find a few topics where it is discussed and tells you what wires are for what based on colour and pin position. Looks like a Ph1 loom - don't think it has a brown multiplug I have a feeling these go into the black box on the chassis leg to the right on your pic. where the tachymetric relay lives. Hard to tell the coluor of the double plug. If it's blue it goes to the ecu temp sender (in which case have you got something else plugged in there?) if black - sad switch. If not these, reverse light switch. Prob. with the early looms is that the instrument wiring goes inside from that side of the engine bay, IIRC, and is totally different to the more familiar Ph1.5 and Ph2 looms On the whole with these pug looms it seems they are designed so that the connectors to the important bits will only fit where they belong Edited May 27, 2007 by steve@cornwall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zowow 0 Posted May 27, 2007 its hard to tell in the pic but they all look like they have the same connector on the end. there is a black multiplug and the battery loom plugs into that any p1 specialists around? :s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnie205 1 Posted May 27, 2007 you need to make sure the loom that was in your car is being used not the new one from the engine. they look like the coil wirng but not 100%. the gearbox bellhousing bolts look wrong and there is one missing. The starter should be cap heads and the box to engine should be 16mm hex heads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted May 27, 2007 And you've broken the lifter cable housing wich will probably mean no lock out for reverse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zowow 0 Posted May 27, 2007 And you've broken the lifter cable housing wich will probably mean no lock out for reverse ya what? lol, still got plenty of bits to go back on, which bit are you talking about? all the linkages and everything are disconnected? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted May 27, 2007 (edited) ya what? lol, still got plenty of bits to go back on, which bit are you talking about? all the linkages and everything are disconnected? [/quot 2cm down from top of pic, in the middle. The black plastic nut screwed into the gearbox. Where you can see the cable sticking through shows where the plastic neck has snapped. Will probably have the effect of the reverse lifter on the gearstick being permanently lifted enabling you to select reverse without lifting it yourself! On a more thread related tack..... Do you have a group of 4 wires all coming out of the same wrapped part of the loom? If so it is usual for these to be Starter solenoid (blue?) alternator indicator, oil warning light and oil pressure, can't remember which colour for which as the length of these wires usually give away their rightful position- i.e only one will reach to the alternator. I assume you have the large guage red wire that links the starter/alternator/battery and junction box on the slam panel? A better view of the white plug may help identification. Do you have a group of wires going to the tachy box from the engine loom? Edited May 27, 2007 by steve@cornwall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alastairh 47 Posted May 27, 2007 The Balck 22mm nut with a cable going through it in the middle of the pic. Well the Blue 2 pin looks like your ecu temp, White plug reverse switch on the box. But the rest hard to tell at that pic, but will be coil and back sensors. Put up the wire numbers and it'll be easy to say whats what! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zowow 0 Posted May 27, 2007 kk i'll get the wire numbers tomorrow main thing is the big battery loom, it fits into a block connector near the wing, but theres two bits the same shape, does it matter where they go? there doesnt seem to be any wires long enough to reach round to the alternator/starter lot of it was cause i didnt take all that off or watch it being done.... did the engine stuff but engine wiring is :S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zowow 0 Posted May 28, 2007 Been having another look today....... 7A - Pin B ECU - Ignition warning lamp (Alternator?) 46A - Automatic Transmission inhibitor (no. 46 goes to Starter though) 30A - Oil Pressure Switch - Oil Pressure warning lamp 30B - Oil pressure guage - Oil Pressure Sender Unit J - ? 3A - ? M4 - ? Blue Multiplug with orange and green connector - ? Blue chunky wire = Gearbox Earth What connects these two What connects into these? Whats this for? What does this connect to? What should be at the other end of this pipe? What geos at the other end of this pipe? What goes on these three? What connects to these? Oil pressure switch? Where did these come from? Where does this plug into? What connects to these? loom differences? Where does this pipe go? Where does thie pipe go? edit=pugtorque; number of images. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted May 30, 2007 What connects these two?Nothing, the left one is a coolant pipe that goes between there & the coolant temp sensor housing & the other is the SAD which connects to a pipe from either the bottom of the inlet manifold or the pipe between the AFM & TB. What connects into these? I don't think they are all used but one of the connectors will be for the ecu power (thick brown wire possibly or the yellow ones in this picture)Whats this for? Throttle switch on throttle body imo. (see this picture) What does this connect to?Not sure, where do the wires run to?What should be at the other end of this pipe?The SAD (see your first picture)What goes at the other end of this pipe?The coolant temp sensor housing. Your replacement engine looks to be a late phase 2 without this housing so you need a different hose that fits directly to the side of the thermostat housing in your first picture.What goes on these three?The middle two are all you need, one goes pipe goes to here from the thermostat housing & the other one goes to the expansion tank iirc. (see this picture). The smaller one on the left isn't used.What connects to these?The only connections you need to find there are the spade connector & nut above it on the solenoid. The wire to the nut comes from the battery distribution block here. The two at the back of the starter are for a plate which fits to the starter & then to the block & thats best left off imo.Oil pressure switch?Oil pressure sender unit, switch is next to it.Where did these come from?Not sure, is it fixed to the bracket or has the loom just fallen down there? If its fallen down then some of them could go to the coil in this picture imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted May 30, 2007 Where does this plug into? Can't quite guess where that picture is but I think it might connect into the battery distribution block here. What connects to these?Coil power wires, possibly 3a is one of these. loom differences? Can't make out the loom clearly enough to help. Where does this pipe go? Possibly rad top hose, where is the other end connected to? If its the thermostat cap, its the top hose. Where does thie pipe go?Back to the expansion tank from underneath the throttle body iirc. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zowow 0 Posted May 30, 2007 thanks for the reply i tried to wire it up yesterday and part of the loom caught fire :s waiting for some more tech assistance before i give the wiring another go. connected something wrong to the coil i think and must of earthed a live...! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim.Badger 15 Posted May 30, 2007 The middle two are all you need, one goes pipe goes to here from the thermostat housing & the other one goes to the expansion tank iirc. (see this picture). Three Pipes The left one is Vac advance and the other two are coolant hoses that should connect to the Thermo housing and something else iirc. Although I could be wrong, I do have problems with my coolant atm I think you need to get one of us down to help mate as it looks a big mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted May 30, 2007 The left one is Vac advance and the other two are coolant hoses that should connect to the Thermo housing and something else iirc. Although I could be wrong, I do have problems with my coolant atm The vac advance pipe can't be seen in that photo. (see attached picture) The vac advance pipe sits between the two pipes at approx 90' apart but the one on the left is unused as I stated in my previous reply. The two pipes that fit to the TB, one comes from the expansion tank & one from the thermostat housing. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted May 30, 2007 What does this connect to? That connect's the oil temp and water temp guages Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zowow 0 Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) What does this connect to? That connect's the oil temp and water temp guages cheers dude, confused me for a while until i realised that there was another little bit of loom with a socket on it... thats helped loads! only thing im stuck on is the coil and earths now i think.. found most of the electrical connections now Edited May 30, 2007 by zowow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zowow 0 Posted May 30, 2007 Its just the coil i'm stuck on now, what goes where.. pretty sure the wires on the right hand side of the coil were connected before, so im not sure what goes on the other two, cant even find anywhere on the net cause its a phase one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim.Badger 15 Posted June 1, 2007 The vac advance pipe can't be seen in that photo. (see attached picture) The vac advance pipe sits between the two pipes at approx 90' apart but the one on the left is unused as I stated in my previous reply. The two pipes that fit to the TB, one comes from the expansion tank & one from the thermostat housing. Graham. Sorry Graham I was just sure that my TB only has three pipes and so the third smaller one must have been the vac advance. Maybe I need to check my TB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted June 4, 2007 Sorry Graham I was just sure that my TB only has three pipes and so the third smaller one must have been the vac advance.Maybe I need to check my TB There are different tb's & some of them have only two coolant & the vac advance pipe underneath, I have one of these downstairs somewhere. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
