Goodridge Hose Ends.

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Hi all,

why do the male ends of Goodridge replacement flexis have a concave dished end.

These will be going into a 3-way female T at the back and each of my calipers at the front.

These all also have concave machining (to take a double flared pipe) so what apart from the union thread seals these goodridge flexis?

just wondering ( or have I bought the only faulty set of hoses in the known world)

Dave

[hengti 2]

they're designed to be fitted with copper crush washers (which should have been provided with the kit)

 

i remember having a similar problem when i fitted mine - the seal is provided by the washers and not by the union ends butting up into the calliper

 

hth

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

they're designed to be fitted with copper crush washers (which should have been provided with the kit)

 

i remember having a similar problem when i fitted mine - the seal is provided by the washers and not by the union ends butting up into the calliper

 

hth

Hi H

Yes I have those copper washers but they are no use for sealing as when U tighten up the union it just flaps around their is a least 3 threads protruding - so no crush washer seal.

These are supposed to be custom made for 1.6's and yet they have made an elementary mistake.

This does not inspire me with confidence as brakes are are a bit important and I can already see that these hoses are s++t!

regards

Dave

[Mikey G 3]

Buy the parts you need from someone like rallydesign and build your own

 

Just helped a friend do his, his Goodridge hoses were too short as he runs caliper brackets for bigger discs. We discovered the difference when he removed them, they managed to seal but the new fittings were much better.

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Buy the parts you need from someone like rallydesign and build your own

 

Just helped a friend do his, his Goodridge hoses were too short as he runs caliper brackets for bigger discs. We discovered the difference when he removed them, they managed to seal but the new fittings were much better.

Hello,

I appreciate this input, however this firm (Goodridge) claims to be making specialist hoses for our cars and they patently have never fitted their own product. Surely I can't be the first member of this esteemed forum to have noticed this GROSS engineering cock up.Plus the fact this kit isn't cheap!!

Anybody else with a view on this ?

regards

Dave

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Hello,

I appreciate this input, however this firm (Goodridge) claims to be making specialist hoses for our cars and they patently have never fitted their own product. Surely I can't be the first member of this esteemed forum to have noticed this GROSS engineering cock up.Plus the fact this kit isn't cheap!!

Anybody else with a view on this ?

regards

Dave

Judging by the total silence on this topic you're all either too embarrassed to admit you missed this or I have bought the only faulty set in the world.It's kit no. SPE0100-4 for your info. Goodridge will not respond to my e-mails on this problem and I must say that I'm not prepared to fit these hoses as I think they are dangerous.I have a couple of piccys here to show you what I mean.

One is of the non crushed washer (n/s rear flex) and the other (a bit blurred) is of the concave union face.

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pug stuff

[jackherer 543]

In my experience goodridge are one of the better fitting kits, but I've never fitted them to a 1.6, only 1.9s.

[welshpug 1,657]

why the hell haven't you contacted whoever you bought them off????

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

why the hell haven't you contacted whoever you bought them off????

because welshpug the part number is correct and HE didn't make them.Goodridge did.

Chill out bro.

D

[hengti 2]

i've only experience of using these hoses on the one car but it does seem rather odd that they don't fit - take it your car is standard?

 

if you can't return them for a refund, i guess your only option is in sourcing some adaptor unions

[Jrod 7]

Miles did one for me now he's doing the rest.

[taylorspug 7]

Judging by the total silence on this topic you're all either too embarrassed to admit you missed this

 

Or maybe people just couldnt be arsed to reply?

 

Ive fitted a few of these kits, all customer ones ive done have been fine, the kit i put on my car was as you describe. All the cars ive fitted them to have been 1.9s so id say there must be a difference in the caliper, not the hoses. Either vent your outrage at Goodridge (although you would be perfectly within your rights to take them back to the place that supplied them to you), or shorten the threaded section down a bit so it can fully tighten up (which is what i did). Not rocket science, 5 minutes work, job done.

 

And the kits seem perfectly good to me as Jackherer has said.

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Or maybe people just couldnt be arsed to reply?

 

Ive fitted a few of these kits, all customer ones ive done have been fine, the kit i put on my car was as you describe. All the cars ive fitted them to have been 1.9s so id say there must be a difference in the caliper, not the hoses. Either vent your outrage at Goodridge (although you would be perfectly within your rights to take them back to the place that supplied them to you), or shorten the threaded section down a bit so it can fully tighten up (which is what i did). Not rocket science, 5 minutes work, job done.

 

And the kits seem perfectly good to me as Jackherer has said.

well,well what a wonderful "jim'll bodge it reply".As I have indicated in earlier posts Goodridge technical Dept (or should it be Q.A ?) have been struck down by "litigation fever".I.e what happens If these hoses were fitted in good faith and they blew.(operating pressures in an hydraulic line a pretty high).As for your remark "couldn't be arsed to reply" this I hope isn't representative of the general response that be expected from members of a specialist forum that claims to be able offer useful/constructive advice to pros and amateurs alike. I will of course pursue both Goodridge and the retailer for answers, but I am genuinely schocked by the indifference shown to what was a request for practical feedback on using these hoses.

PS. modification of the hoses - whilst not rocket science would automatically invalidate any claim made to Goodridge or it's agents. You may wish to take risks with your brakes but I know I don't ( I can be arsed !)

regards from an ex rocket scientist (MSDS Stanmore 1972-76)

D

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Hi all,

I heard from goodridge this am and have had a lengthy telecon with a guy called Phil Martin.

The hoses I have ARE incorrect and initial investigation shows that a concave face/concave seat combination will never seal.Immediate advice was DO NOT fit or attempt to modify to fit as this is dangerous (I said Goodridge would go into a muck sweat over liability).I have forwarded my piccys to Goodridge and am informed that will get back to me later today. I should say in their defence that although they have been tardy in replying they see this is a genuine verifiable problem and are taking it seriously.

I'll keep you informed of the outcome.

regards

Dave

[taylorspug 7]

well,well what a wonderful "jim'll bodge it reply".As I have indicated in earlier posts Goodridge technical Dept (or should it be Q.A ?) have been struck down by "litigation fever".I.e what happens If these hoses were fitted in good faith and they blew.(operating pressures in an hydraulic line a pretty high).As for your remark "couldn't be arsed to reply" this I hope isn't representative of the general response that be expected from members of a specialist forum that claims to be able offer useful/constructive advice to pros and amateurs alike. I will of course pursue both Goodridge and the retailer for answers, but I am genuinely schocked by the indifference shown to what was a request for practical feedback on using these hoses.

PS. modification of the hoses - whilst not rocket science would automatically invalidate any claim made to Goodridge or it's agents. You may wish to take risks with your brakes but I know I don't ( I can be arsed !)

regards from an ex rocket scientist (MSDS Stanmore 1972-76)

D

 

Dave,

 

First of all i resent the implication that any work i do is a bodge or a risk. I run a specialist business in the motor trade and have a reputation for my good workmanship and the quality of product i produce, so thanks a bundle for posting that opinion of me on a public forum for everyone to read. Its especially impressive seeing as ive never met or spoken to you, so you quite clearly have no first hand experience to base your opinion on. Ive also just done some major work for a forum member on their cars braking system, so im sure he will have a small fright when he reads what you are implying about me, nice one.

 

Maybe people would be arsed to reply and show less indifference if you didnt slate every opinion given with a high and mighty attitude? Looking at the quote i posted in my first reply you are suggesting we are all half wits too embarrased to admit our mistakes, so what make you think anyone is going to want to help you? Surely you know it all already anyway, being a 'rocket scientist' and all?

 

Another thing, the hoses you have are wrong? OK fair enough, but dont you think that when you get the correct ones they are going to be the same thing you have now only with the ends shortened? Wasnt that what ive just suggested? Therefore i dont really see any 'risk' in doing this unless you dont know how to do the job properly, which im guessing you dont seeing as you are getting in such a flap about it. I dont tend to risk things on any car, and certainly if it was for a customer id send them straight back. However at the time i did mine i couldnt afford to faff around sending them back, so i turned a small amount of material off the ends in a lathe. That was 4 years ago. Take a guess how well my brakes are working and if my modification has caused the major catastrophe you seem to think it would?

 

Im sure 'Phil Martin' at Goodridge was WELL pleased to spend half the morning on the phone with you...

[Sam 4]

Buy the parts you need from someone like rallydesign and build your own

 

Just helped a friend do his, his Goodridge hoses were too short as he runs caliper brackets for bigger discs. We discovered the difference when he removed them, they managed to seal but the new fittings were much better.

 

Even better still, just get them to make them up!!

[Batfink 201]

We dont HAVE to answer someones question lol

Arent the kits only for pre 89 cars? Which would indicate that the brakes are different in the later models

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

glad to see the professionals have had their chains pulled

XXX

Dave

[richard 0]

Dave,

 

I think your real dispute here is with Goodridge. As you have informed us you are in discussions with them at present so an update as to the situation once you have a final outcome would be appreciated on this thread.

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Dave,

 

I think your real dispute here is with Goodridge. As you have informed us you are in discussions with them at present so an update as to the situation once you have a final outcome would be appreciated on this thread.

Hi all,

final outcome was that the fault was acknowledged.I however have returned the hoses and obtained a refund from my supplier.I will use the OEM pug hoses.

regards

Dave