Guest Rombbb Posted April 27, 2007 Hi guys, The cilindershaped unit between head and distributor cap, which houses the arm connecting the camshaft and rotor, contained oil and it shouldn't. Partnr 5900 h4 A new unit costs 180 euros here in Holland which curently is above my budget. I was wondering if I could somehow remove the rotor arm and replace it's seal (at the camshaft side of the unit) ? don't see any clips holding rotor arm in place so have no clue how to remove it does a new seal has to be high performance ?! Given fact that rotor arm will turn many revs I guess you couldnt just put in any similar seal right ? Pug doesnt sell them loose. Thanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted April 27, 2007 180 euros for the distributor you mean? thats a very good price!!! I guess you mean the o-ring that sits in the groove on its base? where its bolted to the housing on the end of the cylinder head? I shall take some pictures shortly to aid the diagnosis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rombbb Posted April 27, 2007 "I guess you mean the o-ring that sits in the groove on its base?" nope, not the rubber o-ring (already renewed that); that ring prevents leaking between head and distributor, and a faulty one would cause leakage between head and distributor (dripping on gearbox or somewhere there) The seal I mean is around rotor arm in distributor on camshaft side (so it's a ring/seal inside distributor). A faulty one results in oil from camshaft end dripping into distributor itself and possibly into distributor cap. I think 180,- for a distributor is hell high; are we talking the same part here ? I mean the cilinder shaped part (2 pieces bolted together with 3 little bolts) with rotor arm in it, between head and distributor cap. It's only the 2 cilinder shaped pieces with the rotorarm in it, nothing more ---> 180,- = expensive imo, but maybe I'm just a Dutch cheapskate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted April 28, 2007 Parts cd breakdown with the number you listed above (5900 H4); http://www.stuartmcguire.co.uk/pug/GB/205N/5/59A50A.HTM To get the full detail of the distributor you need the number off the distributor afaik; http://www.stuartmcguire.co.uk/pug/GB/205N/SG559B0.HTM But they don't seem to show any internal seal. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted April 28, 2007 sounds like you need the camshaft seal? but I couldn't find where it is listed. I wish our distributors were near 180 euros, I asked my dealer how much and he said 360 pounds plus vat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rombbb Posted April 28, 2007 Thanx guys. Maybe my distributor is cheaper because I have the Motronic 1.3 ecu with electronic ignition. The dizzies from above links seem to have more internal parts; mine only contains a little shaft internally. I thought the seal that stops camshaft oil entering the dizzy to be around the rotor arm/shaft. Or is the camshaft seal supposed to handle this ? Doesn't the connection between camshaft-end and rotor arm-end need to be lubricated ? If the camshaft seal would block all oil this wouldnt happen, hence I thought the barrier was at the rotor arm - distributor housing If no oil is supposed to be at the camshaft-rotor arm connection then for sure my camshaft seal is a goner because that connection is pretty well oiled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted April 29, 2007 The is a seal that fits between the distributor & the cylinder head but it fits into a recess on the distributor body, item #2 on here. I don't think there are any other seals in the build of the distributor & its just that over the life of the car oil manages top seep through from the camshaft gallery in the thermostat housing & gradually build up to create a pool like you have on yours now. The only cure imo is a replacement distributor which @ 180 euro's is cheao compared to the price of one for a UK spac car although a refurbished one should cost less. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rombbb Posted April 29, 2007 The is a seal that fits between the distributor & the cylinder head but it fits into a recess on the distributor body, item #2 on here. I don't think there are any other seals in the build of the distributor & its just that over the life of the car oil manages top seep through from the camshaft gallery in the thermostat housing & gradually build up to create a pool like you have on yours now. The only cure imo is a replacement distributor which @ 180 euro's is cheao compared to the price of one for a UK spac car although a refurbished one should cost less. Graham. Indeed it would most likely be build up of years of oil sweating and normally I don't mind a little sweating but I had some serious engine stuttering problems and there's lots of oil traces near the dizzy (also on sensors at back of motor), so I need it fixed The seal on above link seems to be the rubber o-ring that sits on a groove at the side of the distributor preventing leakage between cilinderhead and distributor in general. Mine is leaking internally through the point where the rotor-arm enters the dizzy. On another forum they gave following specs; rubber o-ring 36,5x3mm, seal around rotor-arm 10x16x4mm (I'm not sure what it exactly means; diameter x height x width ?!). They said to remove the spring around rotor-arm (camshaft end), then remove the little locking-pin (not sure what 'borgpen' is in english ), then remove a little plate, behind which is respective 10x16x4mm seal. I will dismantle dizzy and see what I'll find, if all fails a refurbished one indeed is a good option Cheerio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
