matty_gti 20 Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Well.....after replacing the cam belt and water pump last week as it was leaking i thought every thing would be just dandie!....so when running around i was in 2nd doin 4k just when i peaked on a bridge near me 'BOOM' , the whole car died and i quickly just saw the battery light fade as i drifted onto a curb banging my head on the steering wheel!!! .....i thort maybe just a battery conection so i gave it a wiggle but still nothing!. When i got a lift home and back to the car again i had a look if there was any power from the battery, i connected my multimter up to the battery and engine, i got 12.57v and the same with the battery to the body with a bit of a scrape with the pointers on my multimeter...so again i tested lights and starter and still nothing!, even my immobliser isnt flashing.....basically i dnt have a battery in my car, all electrics gone!!! ........any idea?!? ThAnKs Edited April 12, 2007 by matty_gti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 75 Posted April 12, 2007 so even with a decent battery the cars electrics dont work? is that voltage at the battery with the engine running (i presume not). maybe im a bit tired but the post isnt totaly clear (i do appreciate it is difficult to get you point accross when writing it rather that talking, i tend to confuse myself sometimes!! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty_gti 20 Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) so even with a decent battery the cars electrics dont work? is that voltage at the battery with the engine running (i presume not). Correct, the electrics still dont work even tho 12+v are coming from the battery No, the engine wont run becasue there is no power what so ever,lol. Edited April 12, 2007 by matty_gti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted April 12, 2007 Worth checking the main power feed into the car from the Fuse box under the bonnet, never known one to fall off before thou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisj21 2 Posted April 12, 2007 hi this same thing happend to me as i went screaching round a corner at 70mph. all electrics dead!!!!! anyway theres a small black box attached to the slam panel on the passenger side with two fuses in it.theres a wire mine was yellow that comes from the battery to this box mine had come off but was very hidden and took me ages to find. so maybe it has somthing to do with that either a wire or a fuse maybe??? hope this helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 75 Posted April 12, 2007 all earths ok? as in the one on the gear box and the ones on the body? and of course your positives too!! sounds like a (very) bad connection! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty_gti 20 Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Damm this forum is good! "Miles - Worth checking the main power feed into the car from the Fuse box under the bonnet, never known one to fall off before thou" The thing your talking about, is that the black box on the slam panel? Cheers, tomorrow then ill have a look at the black box to see if any cables have come loose!. P.s, all the fuses are ok Thanks for the input guys!...any other things it could be?? Edited April 12, 2007 by matty_gti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisj21 2 Posted April 12, 2007 a wild stab in the dark but maybe have a look at the ignition barrell end of things for loose disconected wires.anything can happen on a 15-20 year old car!!!!!!! good look and keep us posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty_gti 20 Posted April 12, 2007 all earths ok? as in the one on the gear box and the ones on the body? and of course your positives too!! sounds like a (very) bad connection! Yeah pretty sure they are as im getting the same voltage wherever on the car, but just to narrow it down ill take them all off, clean them and put them back together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty_gti 20 Posted April 12, 2007 a wild stab in the dark but maybe have a look at the ignition barrell end of things for loose disconected wires.anything can happen on a 15-20 year old car!!!!!!! good look and keep us posted Hmm, could be but would that affect the working of the lights, wipers and immobiliser ect? ThAnKs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylorspug 7 Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Worth checking the main power feed into the car from the Fuse box under the bonnet, never known one to fall off before thou Damm this forum is good! "Miles - Worth checking the main power feed into the car from the Fuse box under the bonnet, never known one to fall off before thou" The thing your talking about, is that the black box on the slam panel? Cheers, tomorrow then ill have a look at the black box to see if any cables have come loose!. P.s, all the fuses are ok Thanks for the input guys!...any other things it could be?? Id go for the power feed cable from the battery to the distribution box on the slam panel as Miles has said. Coincidentally a mate of mine had this exact wire fall off a few months back, its the first time i had ever seen it happen and i was bloody suprised! In the end this will cut EVERYTHING, as it feeds power to the whole car from that wire. Edited April 12, 2007 by taylorspug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted April 12, 2007 The main power feed cable to the shunt box fell off on my 205 years ago as I stopped at a roundabout, the ring connector had snapped just below the bolt that connects it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSarty 90 1 Cars Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) This little black box, which is really a power distrubution block can also be mounted to the front of the battery tray. Look there if it isn't on the slam panel. Good luck, but I reckon this is the fault and YES...this forum is the nuts DrS Edited April 13, 2007 by DrSarty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim.Badger 15 Posted April 13, 2007 Some of them may have two wires running to the distribution box, although they are not both needed. I decided to replace my primary positives a couple of months ago because of some bad bodge work by the previous owner. There were two wires that should have run to the dist box but one had snapped off at the box and been cut off closer to the battery leaving about 2" of badly insulated live positive. I replaced the entire wire with one from an immaculate 306 S16, they use the same length and guage wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty_gti 20 Posted April 13, 2007 Well my fellow pug lovers this was the problem.... After a bit of rumiging around i foud a bit of amp cable so did myself a new conection while just wrapping up the old cable at the end.... Thanks very much for the help!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSarty 90 1 Cars Posted April 13, 2007 -------INVOICE------- That'll be £423.67 incl VAT sir. Immediate payment required. Rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty_gti 20 Posted April 13, 2007 -------INVOICE------- That'll be £423.67 incl VAT sir. Immediate payment required. Rich Sounds familiar.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisj21 2 Posted April 13, 2007 ah yes good point. start from the battery and work you way around the wiring then something must have come loose somewhere!!!! good look Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James_m 0 Posted April 13, 2007 Same thing also happened to my car. I ended up swapping the entire battery positive from a 405 mi16, which is considerably longer than the 205 original btw so not ideal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted April 13, 2007 I suspect ALL the people that have had this cable break at that point have also fitted K&Ns meaning the shunt box has been relocated and therefore the stresses on the connector will be different after being stable for 15+ years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
