steve@cornwall 100 Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) I'm hoping somebody can shed some light on the engine I've just bought It came out of a 1.9 "F" reg 205, and apparently was rather rapid! Appears to be an sri block? oil level switch by dipstick hole in block, no sump spacer. Tags on the block, where the engine number usually is say 1CW 02 and Type 159A PCT Head is stamped 4V30 ((or similar- lightly stamped by lug nearest dizzy) inlet mani. is stock 205 gti It has hex headbolts marked 10.9 Fitted with dark blue (MI ?) injectors It has an oil cooler A search tells me this is a citroen 1.9 block that has flat pistons, incompatible with the gti head.Does the gti manifold mate straight to the citroen head, then? It was a cheap engine, with all ancillaries and mated to a td gearbox (why?) and is destined for my cti project if all is well with it any ideas gratefully received Edited April 5, 2007 by steve@cornwall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted April 5, 2007 50 views so far, no ideas? It's going in at the weekend, as I can't leave it in my boot any longer---- unless anyone knows why I shouldn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim21070 2 Posted April 6, 2007 Steve, We're all stumped. Every member of this forum is going around with furrowed brows trying to work this out. My best guess is an older Citroen BX GTi engine but the 159A bit is confusing. If it is a BX GTi engine than it gives, if I remember, more torque than the 205 1.9 GTi due to a different cam profile. In which case it is a good choice. The hex head bolts suggest it is old enough to have been in a BX. TD box will be too long for it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted April 6, 2007 Steve, We're all stumped. Every member of this forum is going around with furrowed brows trying to work this out. My best guess is an older Citroen BX GTi engine but the 159A bit is confusing. If it is a BX GTi engine than it gives, if I remember, more torque than the 205 1.9 GTi due to a different cam profile. In which case it is a good choice. The hex head bolts suggest it is old enough to have been in a BX. TD box will be too long for it though. Well, it's all gone in together With the inlet off, it has gti shaped ports, but with a long machined slot the height of the ports and about 8mm wide running between ports 1+2 and 3+4 above the little water hole. And no bloody where to fit the oil-pressure sender Hopefully tomorrow I'll see how it runs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom_m 0 Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) if its an sri (or equivalent block) with flat topped pistons and a gti head it will be getting a compression ratio of somewhere in teh region of 12:1 iirc what ecu did it come with? and dark blue injectors are 1.6 aren't they? Mi injectors are the same as 8v aren't they? Edited April 6, 2007 by tom_m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted April 6, 2007 I think 159A is a 105bhp BX 1.9 engine, but I don't have a BX haynes to hand so I can't check. I'm pretty sure its not a BX GTi/405 SRI type engine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) if its an sri (or equivalent block) with flat topped pistons and a gti head it will be getting a compression ratio of somewhere in teh region of 12:1 iirc what ecu did it come with? and dark blue injectors are 1.6 aren't they? Mi injectors are the same as 8v aren't they? 1.6 injectors are light blue, came without ecu Edited April 6, 2007 by steve@cornwall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Josh 4 Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) Well, after Kieran's prompt, I've dug out my BX Manual ( Oh, maybe another T-Shirt idea ) and the 159A is indeed 105 BHP @ 5600 rpm and 88.1 lb/ft @ 2000 and runs a C/R of 9.3:1, so a bit of a low end torque monster. Is this similar to the low comp. 105 BHP engine used in the CTIs? Josh Edited April 6, 2007 by Super Josh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted April 6, 2007 Well, after Kieran's prompt, I've dug out my BX Manual ( Oh, maybe another T-Shirt idea ) and the 159A is indeed 105 BHP @ 5600 rpm and 88.1 lb/ft @ 2000 and runs a C/R of 9.3:1, so a bit of a low end torque monster. Is this similar to the low comp. 105 BHP engine used in the CTIs?Josh Should be ok for a relaxing cruiser then Thanks for the imfo! Now any ideas for the oil pressure guage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom_m 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Should be ok for a relaxing cruiser then Thanks for the imfo! Now any ideas for the oil pressure guage? t-piece from the stop light Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@cornwall 100 Posted April 10, 2007 t-piece from the stop light Cheers, Tom! It takes off like a scalded cat but the water pump is leaking Sandy donated a 1.9 ecu so it's now running the correct 1.9 injection bits too, and a fookin big t.d rad, 'cos I busted mine fitting it back in (don't ask). So, a good idea to fit a cambelt and water pump before fitting a s/h engine? yes, yes, yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites