ross009 0 Posted March 27, 2007 gonna be putting an mi engine in my pug an found a steel block version is there a massive difference in performance compared to the ally is it worth waiting for an ally block one? cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildCards 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Weight is the main factor I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ross009 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Weight is the main factor I think. ah right i think i read somewhere its approx 25kg's heavier that about right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan 99 Posted March 27, 2007 Between 15 and 25kg depending on who you ask. Remember that you won't need a cat if you fit one to a 205 so the difference in power is removed too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ross009 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Between 15 and 25kg depending on who you ask. Remember that you won't need a cat if you fit one to a 205 so the difference in power is removed too. ah right cool so they should make the quoted 160 bhp aswell thats good cheers for the help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildCards 0 Posted March 27, 2007 ah right cool so they should make the quoted 160 bhp aswell thats good cheers for the help. Well... when they were new maybe. I wouldn't expect the full quota of horses from a 15/20 year old engine with more than a few miles under it's belt, unless your getting it rebuilt of course. On the other hand it may have, but if you expect less you are always open to be pleasantly surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan 99 Posted March 27, 2007 Well, the iron block engine was quoted as 155bhp WITH a cat, so removing it would definitely add a few bhp to that. But then again it's often said that the alloy version gets a little more than 160bhp thanks to the 205s different exhaust. I don't have any hard figures for either, but what I was getting at is that it's unliekly anybody could tell the difference, as 5bhp more/less probably has less effect than the weight of the fuel in the tank anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted March 27, 2007 Every one talks about the BHP but the torque is also better on the 2.0 plus it's a square config of 86x86, It's a newer engine so lessen's the need for a rebuild compared to any alloy one which will need one regardless is you want it to last any amount of time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeyore 0 Posted March 27, 2007 the iron block is 18kgs heavyer than an alloy block with liners Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie-Van-GTi 71 2 Cars Posted March 27, 2007 I put an iron block into a 306 derv, it had done 118k and with a decat and green cotton induction made 133 at the wheels on reliable rollers. Let you decide what transmission losses to use but Im sure you will see a decat makes a difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites