Door Hinge Wear

[pugbliss 0]

hey all,

 

ive searched for how to do this but carnt find what i need to know.

 

ive got some new pins on order from pug dealer but i know that there is wear in the hinge itself. My question is how do i fix the wear in the hinge itself before i put it all back together.???

 

cheers

[newdean0 0]

If the hinge holes have gone oval you'll need to remove the door, carefully drill the hinge holes oversize and then insert a sleeve. If you can't get a sleeve made up try buying some brass "shimstock sp?" (thin sheets of metal in various thicknesses) roll it up and use that to pad the hole back out to the correct size.

[pugbliss 0]

any idea where to buy these shims????

[newdean0 0]

I got my shim stock at a local auction but you can buy it at RS. I used brass for mine and its lasted a year so far.

Brass shim stock,305x102mm 8 sheets:

http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/searchBr...amp;Ntt=681-249

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

I got my shim stock at a local auction but you can buy it at RS. I used brass for mine and its lasted a year so far.

Brass shim stock,305x102mm 8 sheets:

http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/searchBr...amp;Ntt=681-249

 

A mate drilled out the holes to fit Peugeot 505 hinge-pins which are 1mm bigger diameter than the 205 pins are. Was very easy, no need for sleevign or anything...

[steve@cornwall 100]

Anyone tried old Ford door pins? hollow and springy

[pugbliss 0]

so if im to sleave the hole would a steel sleave be better than a brass one as it wouldnt wear as fast??????

[Paintguy 0]

so if I'm to sleeve the hole would a steel sleeve be better than a brass one as it wouldn't wear as fast??????

Better having a replaceable brass sleeve that wears out, than a steel one that could cause the hinge to wear even more

Edited March 24, 2007 by Paintguy

[pugbliss 0]

Mmmmmm good thinking

[mickie 3]

how could you role up sheets of brazz ? isnt there something easier ?

[pugbliss 0]

coil it round a new rool pin then slide / squeeze it into the hole is my guess

[mickie 3]

that sounds easier said than done.

[axnutty 10]

What Ive done in the past is cut some good hinges off a scrap car and then just weld them onto the GTi.

 

If your handy with a welder and take your time to measure things up its not too bad a job. I only had to do the drivers side and by the time Id done it and ground back the weld you couldnt really tell...just an idea.

[mickie 3]

that would be a last resort, what i was thinking was getting something like this in the picture but in steel or brass

 

 

the big one in the middle, theres things like that which come with thermocouples but a one i have is slightly too small..

 

but does anyone know where i could get something like this ?

 

obviously i would have to drill out the hinge and the original door pin would go through the middle

[28CRAIG 2]

A mate drilled out the holes to fit Peugeot 505 hinge-pins which are 1mm bigger diameter than the 205 pins are. Was very easy, no need for sleevign or anything...

 

 

This seems the easy way would only be a 2min job

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

This seems the easy way would only be a 2min job

 

Yup, can't even see why people are concidering putting inserts in, will be much more hassle and big chance of f***ing it all up as the insert would have to be very thin etc.

[mickie 3]

you cant see why people would want to use 205 pins ? i want to make the hinge hole as it was when it was new, not get a bigger pin.. the hole in the hinge would just get bigger and bigger over time..

 

in my eyes putting in a bigger pin is a bodge job

[pugbliss 0]

i agree with you there...... no need for a bigger pin

[28CRAIG 2]

In that case get some titanium devcon fill the hole drill and ream it out then turn up a titanium pin that should do the job.

[Ryan 99]

you cant see why people would want to use 205 pins ? i want to make the hinge hole as it was when it was new, not get a bigger pin.. the hole in the hinge would just get bigger and bigger over time..

 

in my eyes putting in a bigger pin is a bodge job

 

If pins can last 10+ years before needing to be replaced then surely it's not that big a problem?

 

It's not like you'd have to do it every 6 months and end up drilling the hinge away completely within 3-4 years.

[Richie-Van-GTi 74 2 Cars]

I got some 9mm pins for a mk2 ford escort IIRC, standard pins are 7mm so I should be fine for a good few years now.

[pugbliss 0]

wouldnt 9mm be way too big??? i mean you would have to compress them before you could bang them in.

Or are we talking about after you drill the hinge out?

[Paintguy 0]

Of course there's always the option of replacing the hinges if you don't wish to drill them oversize, or even welding up the oversized holes in the originals and re-drilling them to the standard size.

 

As for substitute pins, I recommended some Corsa ones to M@tt which were only slightly larger than the originals. I'm sure he had success with drilling out his hinges and using these.