mos 1 Posted March 18, 2007 Hi, i noticed when using the search that quite a few people dont run rear compensators with gti6 front brakes most people seem to say this has no detrimental effects, but i cant find anything to say if there are actually any benefits. i am currently fitting a 406 23mm master cylinder to one of my cars and gti6 front brakes and i am wondering if there is any benefit to removing them if they seem to working properly at the moment. the car concerned was on an mot brake tester lat week and showed no problems. i.e is it worth the extra work of removal of the compensators as the rears calipers are more effective when paired with the gti6 front calipers, or perhaps the notoriously crap handbrake is improved or is simply something that may be worth doing when they fail thanks mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Normski 1 Posted March 19, 2007 It won't make any difference to the handbrake. But it should make the rear brakes work harder, improving the overall braking potential of the car. It's effectively moving the brake balance back closer to standard (due to the GTi-6 fronts moving the balance forward). I've just removed mine (because one had failed) but haven't had chance to test the results. I was thinking that I will fit a bias adjuster if there are any problems with the rears locking. I too have read the reports of others on here and they seem to suggest that with this set up it's OK to remove them. Can I ask how far along you are with the master cylinder change? Because I've just done the same and I'm unhappy with the pedal feel. It feels just like the original 20mm MC with the GTi-6 brakes, i.e. really soft for a couple of inches then hardening at what feels like the bottom of the stroke. I've bled it (correct sequence) three times, twice with an ezibleed and no more air is coming out. I don't know if I've been supplied the wrong MC or if it just needs further bleeding. If you got your MC from brakeparts, what does it have on the side? Mine has 3A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mos 1 Posted March 19, 2007 It won't make any difference to the handbrake. But it should make the rear brakes work harder, improving the overall braking potential of the car. It's effectively moving the brake balance back closer to standard (due to the GTi-6 fronts moving the balance forward). I've just removed mine (because one had failed) but haven't had chance to test the results. I was thinking that I will fit a bias adjuster if there are any problems with the rears locking. I too have read the reports of others on here and they seem to suggest that with this set up it's OK to remove them. Can I ask how far along you are with the master cylinder change? Because I've just done the same and I'm unhappy with the pedal feel. It feels just like the original 20mm MC with the GTi-6 brakes, i.e. really soft for a couple of inches then hardening at what feels like the bottom of the stroke. I've bled it (correct sequence) three times, twice with an ezibleed and no more air is coming out. I don't know if I've been supplied the wrong MC or if it just needs further bleeding. If you got your MC from brakeparts, what does it have on the side? Mine has 3A on my other 205 when i did the gti6 and 23mm master cylinder i really noticed the difference, solid pedal and a lot less travel, i will go and have a look on the cylinder in that car (its not here at present) as i havent got to brakeparts yet to buy one for the car i am currently fitting gti6 brakes to does sound like something isnt right with yours though i used to run a car with gti6 brakes and the standard master cylinder years ago and i prefer the 23mm upgrade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Higgy 0 Posted March 19, 2007 Right! Me and Anthony both run no rear compensators on GTi-6 brakes with standard master cylinder and there is NO problem with brake bias. This has been proved on MOT and with me locking up my front brakes a few weekend agos The main benefit (to me) is no more MOT fails and forking out £40 for a compensator only to find I have fitted on the wrong side (because compensator has failed open or closed!). I was getting fed up as 2 years in a row it happened costing me time & retest fees Higgy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Normski 1 Posted March 26, 2007 i will go and have a look on the cylinder in that car (its not here at present) as i havent got to brakeparts yet to buy one for the car i am currently fitting gti6 brakes to Thanks, that would be a help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
