2052006 10 Posted March 12, 2007 Finally got the 205 to the testers today and it passed first time which I was more than a bit pleased about . I thought the mot might pick up on what I thought was a knackered wheel bearing (f/n/s) but it didn't. Tester said what I described sounded more like a CV joint. On RIGHT hand corners, at speed, or going hard round roundabouts there is a rumbling/grinding noise. What do you guys think? Bearing or CV joint? And which side - I'm assuming f/n/s - as that's where the load is on right hand corners... And are either easy to fix? Cheers chaps Pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim21070 2 Posted March 13, 2007 Hi Pete, I doubt it's an outer CV joint as they normally click on full lock. best way to thest them is to find an empty car park and drive around on full lock slowly in both directions (i.e. full lock one way and then full lock the other). If you have worn outer CV joints they will emit a clicking sound. Inner CV joints usually cause vibration and if really worn, a snatchy takeup/release. Wheel bearings usually show wear by vibrating and making a groaning noise. In my experience, you'll feel them before you hear them. From your description I'd say that it's not CV joints and may not be wheel bearings. I'd be looking for something rubbing. A good suspect is either a partially seized brake caliper or the little heat shield around your lower swivel joint is touching the brake disc. Otherwise, yes it's wheel bearings. They're easy enough to change if you have a hydraulic press but without one you'll have an impossible struggle on your hands. The Procedure as detailed in the Haynes Manual to remove them without a press will not and does not work on a 17 year old car. It can take over 5 tons of pressure to shift them. Best to take the hubs off and pop them into your local garage and get them to press out the old ones and press in the new ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faz85 0 Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) Bearings tend to make more of a grumbling noise like you describe, where as driveshafts tend to make more of a knocking noise. The only reason i would suggest driveshafts over bearings is because the noise manifests itself on corners. If its a metallic sort of noise, that you can hear on full lock, it would suggest worn outer CV joints. Where as if you can feel a vibration, that matches the road speed then it points to inner CV joints. You can renew the joints but would probably be easier to just replace them. From a repair point of view, you would want it to be the driveshafts as opposed to bearings IMO. driveshafts arent to difficult, but the hub nut can be a bit of a mission to get off! EDIT - beaten to it! Edited March 13, 2007 by Faz85 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim21070 2 Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) driveshafts arent to difficult, but the hub nut can be a bit of a mission to get off! A good socket, a good breaker bar and six feet of scaffold pole never fails Loosen a hub nut with the wheels on the ground whilst an assistant stands on the brake pedal. If you have centreless wheels (e.g. 1.6 pepperpots) go to a scrappy and get a steelie off any other PSA vehicle just for this purpose. New hub nuts MUST be used on reassembly and carefully staked. Edited March 13, 2007 by jim21070 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2052006 10 Posted March 13, 2007 A good socket, a good breaker bar and six feet of scaffold pole never fails Loosen a hub nut with the wheels on the ground whilst an assistant stands on the brake pedal. If you have centreless wheels (e.g. 1.6 pepperpots) go to a scrappy and get a steelie off any other PSA vehicle just for this purpose. New hub nuts MUST be used on reassembly and carefully staked. thanks for the replies. I don't think it's the outer CV as it doesn't click on full lock - just grumbles on say half lock when loaded up - so I guess it must be the inner. May have a go at tackling it myself then if it's not too hard. Anyone care to write a step by step guide?! cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveK 0 Posted March 13, 2007 A good socket, a good breaker bar and six feet of scaffold pole never fails New hub nuts MUST be used on reassembly and carefully staked. personally i used my halfords lifetime guarantee 3/8 ratchet with 3 foot pole with muchos jumping and thumping, and the thing didnt break, was well impressed oops i didnt use new hub nuts when i removed my driveshafts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveK 0 Posted March 13, 2007 oh and i second the wheel bearing being the problem, exact thing happened on my old...dare i say it...saxo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
