Mikey S 29 1 Cars Posted February 27, 2007 hi all im starting my turbo conversion on my 205 and my brothers in the next few weeks and i have managed to sort most things out bar the vehicle speed sensor. when i removed my engine from the donor it had a 2 piece speedo cable with the speed sensor in the middle of the 2 cables. i have kept this but how do i go about wiring it to the ecu? i know that 1 pin from the vss goes to the ecu (pin 9) but what about the other? any info would be great! thanks in advance mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted February 27, 2007 Ideally mate, you want one of these : Then it's just a simple plug and play, although Ant made his own out of two speedo drives and I can have a look at the wiring diagrams/post them up if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey S 29 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2007 Ideally mate, you want one of these : Then it's just a simple plug and play, although Ant made his own out of two speedo drives and I can have a look at the wiring diagrams/post them up if you want. my loom doesnt have a plug for the vss on it. it was just a standard push type as per 205 gti with a cable about 18 inchs long then the vss and the other cable running into the car. the connector on the vss had two pins and they ran off into the car somewhere. if you could post some wiring diagrams that would be great! mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted February 28, 2007 No plug nightmare, sorry to hear that Mike. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...mwiring4003.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...mwiring4002.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...mwiring4001.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...boxmwiring4.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...boxmwiring3.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...boxmwiring2.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...boxmwiring1.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/djs...rboxmwiring.jpg They you go mate, that's all the XM Turbo wiring diagrams I have. Might also be worth droppin Ant a PM, incase He doesn't see this Topic, as I remember Him saying he had a two pin connector, but managed to fuse two speedo drives together. I also have the MP3.2 ECU pinouts somewhere to, if they are not listed above, will dig it out later. Sam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 2 Posted February 28, 2007 My car had a 2 pin gearbox sensor, but no cable.. If yours has a cable and wires, just use that one.. Ie speedo cable into your 205 clock, and then wire the wires into the loom.. No idea though where the wires go.. I just followed the wires from the loom back to the VSS control box kept the loom in tact.. Sorry i cant be any more use Regards Ant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie-Van-GTi 71 2 Cars Posted February 28, 2007 Im pulling my 306 to bits and it uses one of them speed drives, I can send you the plug to fit into it if you want? I will even tell you which wire is which on the plug:D drop me a pm if you want it. I should be removing it tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey S 29 1 Cars Posted February 28, 2007 My car had a 2 pin gearbox sensor, but no cable.. If yours has a cable and wires, just use that one.. Ie speedo cable into your 205 clock, and then wire the wires into the loom.. No idea though where the wires go.. I just followed the wires from the loom back to the VSS control box kept the loom in tact.. Sorry i cant be any more use Regards Ant i didnt keep the vss control box, it went when i scrapped the donor. looks like a trip to the scrapper then. richie, thanks for the offer mate but im goin try and track down the vss box so i can keep the 2 piece cable arrangement son of sam, thanks for the diagrams mate! mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest am_i_mad? Posted July 10, 2007 what vss is that in the pic. Is it an earlier xantia one?? Cheers Jamie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted July 12, 2007 what vss is that in the pic. Is it an earlier xantia one?? It is a VSS but no idea if its an early or a later one. Same as the one I got from Miles for use in my car (when I finally get round to fitting it). Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted July 12, 2007 Wouldn't it be good, if we could collate a list of all the cars these appeared on for this thread I guess you can still buy them new, but I remeber Hilgie saying they were in the region of £100 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted July 18, 2007 I paid 150 guilders for it back then. From Citroen they are cheaper, around 40-50 euros = ~£25-30 There are two types...two pin and three pin. The three pin ones are commonly found on more modern cars like 306GTi6s. The two pin ones are quite often on Citroens but I don't know which ones. Also they can be obtained from various gearboxes. The V6 had a pin one in a ML5T box, but it had no connector for the speedocable, so I just swapped a two pin one a ME box at the scrappy in which had two connections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig f90 0 Posted July 18, 2007 Does any one know which one i can use for a engine from a 406t? P-reg '97' The 406 one wont accept a speedo cable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted July 19, 2007 That uses a 2 pin one....I think I have found it on a Citroen box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig f90 0 Posted August 4, 2007 That uses a 2 pin one....I think I have found it on a Citroen box. Thats right Hilgie. 2 pins on mine, went to the peugeot dealer and they know only of a 3 pin. do you recall which citroen model or gear box had them? please. My nearest citroen dealers 25 mies away. craig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted August 4, 2007 I *think* it came from a 1.8 Xantia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig f90 0 Posted August 12, 2007 (edited) Cheers hilgie i'll give it a shot. All i could do is ask to see one , either on the micro fishe or even better, in the flesh. Feel better now i have the slightest hint for which model to ask about. thanks for your help. craig. Edited August 12, 2007 by craig f90 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted August 13, 2007 I *think* it came from a 1.8 Xantia. My phase one '98 1.8 16v Xantia just has an electronic speed sensor, no cable or ability to fit one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
