Ahl 4 Posted January 13, 2007 As a project that will probably never come about, I'd like to take a base model 205 and fit it with full 1.9 GTI running gear, including the wide wheels and probably 309 wishbones. I'd probably use those 15" Citreon C5 alloys wheels - the really light ones that looks like steelies. The thing is though, I reckon this cunning plan is all perfectly feasible except for the wheels sticking out past the arches. I'd love to keep it as standard and as s*it looking as possible on the outside though. Do you think its possible to pull or flare the standard arches enough to fit over the wheels? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrainFluid Posted January 13, 2007 Wouldnt a set of after market arches be in order? Or you could stick a pair of gti wings on the front and fill the clip holes maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikie 0 Posted January 13, 2007 You can buy wheel arch flaring tools that bolt onto the hub and run a delryn wheel against the inside and slowly reshape the metal so it may be possible.I have seen them on ebay but they are not cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben_M 1 Posted January 13, 2007 I did this on my first car , which was a 205 xe. I fitted a set of 1.9 speedlines which rubbed. All i did was bang then out with ahammer rapped in a cloth . that worked and it didn't crack the paint. The final result was the bottom of the arch was pushed out by about half an inch both sides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted January 13, 2007 I did this on my first car , which was a 205 xe. I fitted a set of 1.9 speedlines which rubbed. All i did was bang then out with ahammer rapped in a cloth . that worked and it didn't crack the paint. The final result was the bottom of the arch was pushed out by about half an inch both sides. Sounds interesting. Do you have any pics of the car? The wheel arch flaring tool also sounds interesting - I'll keep an eye out for them. I don't to fit rallye type arches as would want it to look as standard as possible. Otherwise I would as I loves them arches. Same goes for the GTI arches - filling the holes sounds like far too much work, but more importantly, the holes are a weird shape under the trim and it wouldn't look right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) The wheel arch flaring tool also sounds interesting - I'll keep an eye out for them. We use something similar for swaging/trepanning. A tool could be improvised quite easily imo Edited January 14, 2007 by sonofsam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paintguy 0 Posted January 14, 2007 Arch rolling tool. Maybe a rethink needed on that one! Or there's this kind of thing for actually pulling them outwards. I've not used either of those, but I'd imagine the fronts to be quite easy, it's the rears that might be a problem. Since they are connected to the inner arch fairly close the the edge, I don't think you'll have a lot of 'slack' to play with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted January 14, 2007 Arch rolling tool. Maybe a rethink needed on that one! LOL! Nice pic, trying to flare a plastic bumper! If I could get one of those cheap or borrow one to have a play with... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmsy19 3 Posted January 14, 2007 Ahl try using your standard jack. just need to slowly jack the metal from the inside out. it should push them out enough Edd-xs did thi to his old xs and works a treat apparently. was going to do this to mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted January 14, 2007 Ahl try using your standard jack. just need to slowly jack the metal from the inside out. it should push them out enough Edd-xs did thi to his old xs and works a treat apparently. was going to do this to mine Do you have any pics of his car? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrod 7 Posted January 15, 2007 On my XS when I bought it they had cut that lip off the inner of the arches. Only ever rubbed with people in the back and that was lowered 60 mm using 195/45/15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmsy19 3 Posted January 15, 2007 Do you have any pics of his car? unfortunatly not. it had the fake gti kit on it which made it look wider anyhow but looked like it definatly worked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim.Badger 15 Posted January 15, 2007 I'd like to know this as well as one of my pipe dreams that I may actually do is to fit 1.9GTi running gear and a GTi6 engine to a base model, but I was just going to send it to a professional body shop. On the subject of wheels I think slightly rusty steel 15" wheels would suit the idea more or 14" DTurbo wheels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest smokinslim Posted January 16, 2007 Grind off the folded lip on the arches and you won't have any problems at standard ride height, unless you carry a lot of weight in the back. The front will be fine like this even at gti ride height (even with 7" rims), the back will require further work when lowered however. My car only being a CJ has the misfortune of base model arches so i speak from experience - but much arch butchery plus fitting my rallye arches draws near Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_the_Sparky 9 Posted January 16, 2007 A guy posted on here who had converted a base model to full GTi, from Egypt I think. Including flaring the arches, but no idea how it was done but did include piccys... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
