309 Track Control Arms Fitted And Drive Shafts

[dazEmad 0]

Fitted today 309 driveshafts and track control arms and would like to mention how impressive the set-up is. Car does turn in much sharper and handles better. Some advice if your looking at purchasing drive shafts avoid euro car parts the quality of the driveshaft was shocking and although GSF are £20 more the quality is much much better.

[sonofsam 5]

I've had new GKN shafts from ECP and they are great!

[Revla 2]

I've had new GKN shafts from ECP and they are great!

 

GKN is what GSF supply too!!

[dazEmad 0]

yea GSF are the GKN ones but i got some dodgy make from ECP and was really bad quality.

[sonofsam 5]

Ok, so by that rationale, its ok to buy from ECP if they supply you with GKN shafts:D

[Paintguy 0]

I'm lovin the 309 set up on mine, even with the relatively soggy standard damping. Turn in seems razor sharp, and the stiffer rear end stays well and truly planted.

 

If anything, mine tends slightly towards understeer, but then I'm not really one for setting the car up for corners - I just throw it in and hope for the best!

[welshpug 1,657]

I also have 309 lower arms and driveshafts on my car

[Ahl 4]

The 309 setup on my car is great.

 

I find the car tends to judder (or 'axle tramp') away from junctions more easily though. It doesn't seem any worse on braking suprisingly.

[jackherer 543]

I find the car tends to judder (or 'axle tramp') away from junctions more easily though

 

what condition are your top mounts in? axle tramp was significantly improved on mine when I fitted some BBM group n top mounts.

[Ahl 4]

Well it had new bearings and grp N rubbers at 100k, though its on 145k now.

 

Are you running 309 bits too Kieran?

[Sandy 191]

I'm running an entire 309, works very well.

[jackherer 543]

Well it had new bearings and grp N rubbers at 100k, though its on 145k now.

 

Are you running 309 bits too Kieran?

 

 

yes I've got 309 wishbones/driveshafts and a 309 beam, I did have the front ARB from a 309 too but I wasn't happy with it so I went back to the 205 one.

[Alastairh 47]

I've got it on mine, and currently refreshing the bushes whilst doing the reshell.

 

But make sure your tracking is 100% though.

[Edp 67 3 Cars]

I've only got the front 309 set up but I love it. Certainly pushes into corners better but does have a habit of tramlining on rutted roads.

[nunoserrano 0]

Hi so basic what you guys do is on a 205 gti subframe fit the 309 arms and drivshaft right ?? and how do you ajust the camber whit that set up will not the tyres start to get bold on one side ??? thanks

[sonofsam 5]

You can not adjust camber ( with standard top mounts ) The longer 309 arm creates the camber.

 

Tyre wear is more even if anything:D

[nunoserrano 0]

so you guys have all tyre wear unless iff you have excentrics top mounts

 

thanks

[Sandy 191]

Tyre wear is even with 309 arms, as long as the tracking's ok.

[chris1986 1]

hi, i've read somewhere the arms might not fit a car with xu engine and there for tu? i have no idea so i'm asking here. also if anyone has the part numbers for the genuin arms and drive shafts that would be great, also any idea how much i'm looking to pay for these? thankyou oh and i have a xu engine, just wanted to clear this up before i go and buy some

[Sandy 191]

309 base model bottom arms are the same for all models except the GTi, GRi and TD models, which all have wishbones.

[Alastairh 47]

Td 309s are the ones to look out for in the scrappies.

 

But tbh 99% of them are all worn, so id go new through gsf etc.

 

The tyre ware is better providing you have your tracking 100%.

 

When i had 205 stuff under lots of hard corners with my coilovers etc, the outer edge of the tyre became non existant, and i know of 2 other cases where 309 stuff has fixed this.

 

Alastair

[Spiky 37]

yea GSF are the GKN ones but i got some dodgy make from ECP and was really bad quality.

 

 

so for 63 each, do they come complete???

 

as in all cv joints,

 

so just whip out the old one from box and hub and fite these????

[zilog 0]

Is this a viable setup for a mostly road-car? How good is straight line-grip with that much camber? How well will my tires last/wear if I mostly commute but sometimes also like to throw the car through corners, assuming I ride on street tyres like Toyo proxes or similar?

[oli-pug 6 2 Cars]

so for 63 each, do they come complete???

 

as in all cv joints,

 

so just whip out the old one from box and hub and fite these????

 

they have a 25 quid surcharge on them aswell, aslong as you have 1.9 hubs and 309 wishbones they are a direct replacement mate.

 

Is this a viable setup for a mostly road-car? How good is straight line-grip with that much camber? How well will my tires last/wear if I mostly commute but sometimes also like to throw the car through corners, assuming I ride on street tyres like Toyo proxes or similar?

 

they're only 1 degree negative camber so its not extreme enough to cause major issues on a road car.

Edited March 26, 2007 by oli-pug

[C_W 3 1 Cars]

I had this setup on my 205 for a year or so but took it off last year and went back to 205 setup, I thought it made it too nervous at high speed and tramlined even when there weren't any tramlines.