ultimatepug 0 Posted November 15, 2006 i need to get some new shockers on the front of my 309 4x4 dimma. theyve seen better days, plus one of the threads on the strut top has corroded and snapped off. are these exactly the same items as found on the 2wd 405 mi16? wheresreasonable that may be able to hrlp me out with a new set too? regards adam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 403 1 Cars Posted November 16, 2006 yep, they should be the same. T16's front shocks are 2cm shorter. and as it happens, Koni Sport Adjustables for Mi16 are also 2cm shorter than standard . however, are you sure your front shocks are from a 405? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultimatepug 0 Posted November 16, 2006 pretty sure dude. altough i will double check. adam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug309twin40s 1 Posted November 16, 2006 front shocks should be 309 items as 405 shocks dont have the brackets for the front drop links or the brake hoses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 403 1 Cars Posted November 16, 2006 true, but... if he's got full 405 subframe with wishbones etc (i think he earlier mentioned he had), then he'll have the shock absorbers too . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultimatepug 0 Posted November 16, 2006 no drop links so must be mi16x4 items, if im wrong im sure henry will know. adam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,675 Posted November 16, 2006 just had a look at your pics and they're definitely 405 hub carriers and lower arms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted November 17, 2006 Correct, but as far as I know, the 205/309 shocks fit the 405hub carriers, so I think they used 205/309 shocks on the conversion (at least I would have, not need to modify the topmount on the car either then). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars Posted November 17, 2006 According to Dimma, the car was built on brand new 4x4 stuff that came out of a crate and as the original car was a 309 Style, I guess 4x4 shocks would have been used. It has a 4x4 subframe and rear beam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Machine 3 Posted November 18, 2006 205/309 shocks do fit in the 4x4 hubs, so get whats best for your wallet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted November 18, 2006 Looks like 309 stuff to me!! http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=67195 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B1ack_Mi16 67 Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) Looks like 309 stuff to me!! http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=67195 You can't really know, as the first 405's got the exact same top-mount construction as the 205/309, except for the one piece that bolts to the chassi which has 2 instead 3 bolts. When I was apart with my 405 struts I found I could use 205 Gr. N bushes in the top mounts But they started using a different type top mount at some date. Anyway I guess any 405 shocks will fit with no problem. 405 shocks don't have the "ear" for the ARB drop-links though, so you need to see if you really has a complete 405 front suspension or not before deciding. If you've got the standard 205/309 subframe just get 309 shocks, will be less hassle. Edited November 18, 2006 by B1ack_Mi16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultimatepug 0 Posted November 18, 2006 hmm didnt realise that! will have a scout aroubd for some struts. adam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
