rapide 0 Posted October 16, 2006 Hi All, I've been running Ferrodo DS3000's on the front of my 1.9 for the last couple of months, rest of brake set up is totally standard bar 5.1 fluid. To be honest I've been massively impressed, STOP so well. Only use the car on weekends, occasional track day. Thing is I've just been reading up on DS3000's and it seems they are only for track use, NOT for road!? I'm aware that they take a little while to heat up and squeal slightly but I have to say even at their coldest on a short run they seem fine - lack a tiny bit of feel and bite but nothing approaching dangerous, no worse than standard from what I can remember, just a bigger contrast when they do warm up! Are Ferrodo being over cautious to cover themselves, or are they a danger to the road!? Reckon I risk potential insurance problems? James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veloce200 3 Posted October 16, 2006 Hi All, I've been running Ferrodo DS3000's on the front of my 1.9 for the last couple of months, rest of brake set up is totally standard bar 5.1 fluid. To be honest I've been massively impressed, STOP so well. Only use the car on weekends, occasional track day. Thing is I've just been reading up on DS3000's and it seems they are only for track use, NOT for road!? I'm aware that they take a little while to heat up and squeal slightly but I have to say even at their coldest on a short run they seem fine - lack a tiny bit of feel and bite but nothing approaching dangerous, no worse than standard from what I can remember, just a bigger contrast when they do warm up! Are Ferrodo being over cautious to cover themselves, or are they a danger to the road!? Reckon I risk potential insurance problems? James ds2500 are also only for track use on any car made after 2000 due to reg90 and they work fine from cold...! no relevant legislation before then AFAIK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jez G 6 1 Cars Posted October 17, 2006 ds2500 are also only for track use on any car made after 2000 due to reg90 and they work fine from cold...! no relevant legislation before then AFAIK Whats reg90 ? can you point me in the right direction to read it ? I have DS2500 in my EVO, it came with the 6 pot AP kit,, mine is a 2001 car ! Jez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veloce200 3 Posted October 17, 2006 Whats reg90 ? can you point me in the right direction to read it ? I have DS2500 in my EVO, it came with the 6 pot AP kit,, mine is a 2001 car ! Jez http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_...oads_506801.pdf it's post April 2001 sorry - slightly out ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon C 1 Posted October 17, 2006 I've been thinking of getting a set of these instead of the DS2500's. If you say you can use them safely on the road from cold then I may give em a whirl... What are they like for causing wear on the discs? How much do you pay for a set? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veloce200 3 Posted October 17, 2006 I've been thinking of getting a set of these instead of the DS2500's. If you say you can use them safely on the road from cold then I may give em a whirl... What are they like for causing wear on the discs? How much do you pay for a set? ds3000 are a race pad and destroy discs. if you get fade with ds2500 something is wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James_R 3 Posted October 17, 2006 I'm running DS2500 pads at the front and ferodo prem's on the back. I havent' had fade on them yet, and cold performance is fine. I'm thinking of moving to 3000's for next track season though. they are not recommended for road use as they have poor cold perf (well a large contrast from hot) which can catch you out a bit if they hot one minute, then a springt up the duel and brake for the roundabout and you find theyr'e cold, can leave you sideways for fast road use though they're over kill, that compound was used on BTCC cars, which are lots heavier than our tin cans (they did use 2500 on the rears though) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapide 0 Posted October 17, 2006 I paid 78.80 for the DS3000's. Seem to remember they were about 15 pounds or so more than the 2500. Can't really comment on disk wear as I've only done a thousand miles or so. Not too worried though as as I said only really a play/ track day car. A friend whos very into his trackdays has used both, admittiedly on an EVO so more weight, but he reckoned he could tell the difference between them. Both of us are quite hard on brakes, so I thought what-the-hey! As for the cold pads into a roundabout after short run on the motorway scenario, doesn't happen in my experience. Maybe is a slight tale off in performance but its not like you attack a roundabout like you would a corner on a circuit! In short if your driving that hard on a road (coming off a dual carriageway) so that last bit of retardation between hot/warm pad means you crash, the dropped oil from the HGVs would have you anyway Agreed OTT really though, but worth it for that, is it going to endo!? factor plus track fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Ingram 1 Posted October 18, 2006 I've just fitted some DS3000s to the front of mine. There pretty awesome if not a bit too much. They work ok when there cold but take very little time to warm up. Just takes a bit of getting used to when there warmed up as they really do stop you, and quite easily lock the wheels up. Im hoping some better tyres will help out with that a bit though. I think I paid about £56 for mine. Well worth it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rippthrough 98 Posted October 18, 2006 What with discs being so cheap these days - better off having them wear out rather than the pads! -Phillip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C_W 3 1 Cars Posted October 19, 2006 I used DS3000s for the past couple of years in my 205 but have stopped using them now as I found them too OTT once warmed up driving on track with road tyres (ie locking up was far too easy). On the road I never had any problems with cold performance, just like a normal pad really but when hot they're super powerful. Last trackday I ran Yellowstuffs which I quite like for perofrmance and price (£40). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veloce200 3 Posted October 19, 2006 I used DS3000s for the past couple of years in my 205 but have stopped using them now as I found them too OTT once warmed up driving on track with road tyres (ie locking up was far too easy). On the road I never had any problems with cold performance, just like a normal pad really but when hot they're super powerful. Last trackday I ran Yellowstuffs which I quite like for perofrmance and price (£40). exactly Chris ds3000 are designed for cars without servos - friction rating is 100% higher than a normal road pad!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duroc 2 1 Cars Posted October 19, 2006 I used DS3000s for the past couple of years in my 205 but have stopped using them now as I found them too OTT once warmed up driving on track with road tyres (ie locking up was far too easy). On the road I never had any problems with cold performance, just like a normal pad really but when hot they're super powerful. Last trackday I ran Yellowstuffs which I quite like for perofrmance and price (£40). Are you running standard front calipers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil88 0 Posted October 19, 2006 I'm running ds3000 with 1.6 calipers on my road rally car best pads I've used, only thing with them is the sparks that come of the disk melt into the alloy and make a right mess of them. also put the used ones on the rear as hand brake was rubbish before with out them just got to make shore that you turn down the bias to the rear brake to stop the side ways action when braking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
