chunkymonkey 0 Posted September 28, 2006 i have a 205 gti6 which is running the gti6 manifold mated to the standard 19 gti system.i have read that the standard 19 system is good for 160 bhp. so im at the point where im looking for a system to be made to suit. i dont really wont a powerflow system,just not my thing really, i want a system that will produce good flow as im hoping to go down the throttle bodie route next spring cheers gaz and please dont mention btb £££££££££££££££££££ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted September 28, 2006 I would've thought the standard 205 system is fine for a standard engine, but obviously if you want something a bit more free-er flowing there's plenty of after market exhausts on the market, ie. Magnex, so obviously don't need something made as i'm pretty sure the GTi6 manifold isn't that hard to mate to a standard system, much the same as an Mi16 is. Unless you really are after something to match you're engine's modifications etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted September 28, 2006 Well I've used the Magnex system for my car upto 200bhp so far, and will be using that on the new engine too so that's one option. However, if I were to buy again (and I'm going to have to soon) I will be going for this: This is a system on offer by Des Developments (as seen on Seans recents trackcar build) and the options/pricing are as follows: GpN 2" with single 8"x4" straight through back box = £200+VAT GpA 2 1/2" with single 8"x4" straight through back box = £220+VAT GpA 2 1/2" with 8"x4" straight through back box and 4" round centre box = £240+VAT The exhausts have been proven on vehicles from high powered Mi16's up to 225bhp through to stock hatch rallycross cars and are proven to flow well in high power applications and meet track day / competition noise limits (GpA with single silencer excluded). For more information contact DES Developments Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunkymonkey 0 Posted September 28, 2006 thanks baz for the reply and cheers jon i will be looking into the des system i will give them a ring later if i rememember correctly sean has one on his car?? and after watching his videos its sounds fapping awesome!!! well i will keep you posted on how the des system affects the car once its fitted i will being going for the quieter of the two des group a systems my days of over noisey exhausts are gone, like back in the days of my old little mini with the lcb exhaust.damn thing made my ears bleed! geez im getting old! im not quite smelling of piss and buscuits yet though! cheers gaz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garry 1 Posted September 28, 2006 I was under the impression the standard Gti6 exhaust has a bigger bore than the 205 item. I am looking for a new quieter exhaust so I don't have to worry about noise limits at trackdays, also the induction noise on the 6 is awesome anyway. I currently have the following: Custom (read rubbish) PPM 4 into 1 manifold, adds 20bhp.........err Piper 4'' slash cut back box Centre section made to fit between When I had the car on a RR it made 137lb/ft of torque, most 6's make around 150lb/ft, I think the loss is down to the manifold. I have bought a standard GTI6 manifold to go on and was going to get a centre section and back box to suit, the above DES one seems quite good, but I don't think it will match up to the manifold without some sort of link pipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 586 Posted September 28, 2006 The outlet of the GTi6 manifold is 2.5" but I'd still reduce down to a 2.25" system, the same concept as the pic. above. If you find it still too noisey fit a 2" tailpipe. You loose too much low end torque with a 2.5" system and they're too noisey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunkymonkey 0 Posted September 28, 2006 well i did have the des groupA but the quieter og the two after reading petert last comments regarding the loss of torque im left head scratching again garry i have spoke to des developments and they have offered to fit there system to the gti6 manifold for me to the tune of 300+ vat which i think is quite good really but like i said im left scratching my head after petert comments, as he has knoledge of these things still i shout a cry for help!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huckleberry 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I asked DES how bad the noice from the group A system was and he told me he would put it in the " noisy" section. I've asking around and for my gti6 project we'll be using the stdt 6 manifold, a custom 2,5 inch downpipe and a Remus kind of small backbox to end. Only thing we don't know yet is if we'll use a 60 mm or 54 mm middle box. I AM planning to use the biggest sound-eating centre box to lose as much noise as possible. I had a quote from our local SS exhaust builder. They quoted me over 1.000 euro's from downpipe to backbox......they realy make good exhausts but a tad pricy I might add. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites