Rear Stub Axel

[Gavin Waddell 18]

i ve got a 1.9 rear beam and want to transfer the hole disc set up onto my 1.6 beam( its a long story). any way i was wondering what size was the allen was that goes into the back of the stub axel on the treailing arm. i measured this and got 7/16 ?

 

thanks gavin

[888rmb 6]

It doesn't really do anything, so you dont need to put an allan key in there.

[Gavin Waddell 18]

how does the stub axel come out then?

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

Forget about the allen key, its just pressed into the arm & the allen key is there to turn the stub axle to align the splines when fitting it.

 

Its also needed if the splines are sheared to help undo the hub nut.

 

The stub axles are either hammered out (protect the threads & end or use a soft metal drift) or by using a press.

 

Graham.

[Gavin Waddell 18]

right a gave them a good bashing with the hammer and well, they are still on the beam im assuming that 12 years of swiss roads which are salted has takrn its tole. i can get hold of a press but putting an entire beam on it to press out tthe axel will be a lot of fun and games, and ill have to do it 6 times from 1.9 out 1.6 out to 1.9 into 1.6 beam. what a headache.

 

other solution is to take off the 1.6 beam and whack on the 1.9. but i dont know what condition the beam is in. where as my 1.6 beam has got new shafts on both sides and is all painted. or do i risk it and whack the 1.9 beam and have done with it.

 

and last solution i can think of is put all the disc set up onto the 1.6 beam andwith 1.6 axels but these are slightly shorter than 1.9 axels which means the bearings will over hang. now this would mean the bearing would probably use it self quicker, but i cant think of any thing else, oh aprt from its a bit of a bodge.

 

what would you lot do?

[Gavin Waddell 18]

another thing my 1.9 beam has load sensore on it are they really necessary or can i take them off the car is stripped and caged and has got a tilton brake bias vavle?

[max0 5]

right a gave them a good bashing with the hammer and well, they are still on the beam im assuming that 12 years of swiss roads which are salted has takrn its tole. i can get hold of a press but putting an entire beam on it to press out tthe axel will be a lot of fun and games, and ill have to do it 6 times from 1.9 out 1.6 out to 1.9 into 1.6 beam. what a headache.

 

other solution is to take off the 1.6 beam and whack on the 1.9. but i dont know what condition the beam is in. where as my 1.6 beam has got new shafts on both sides and is all painted. or do i risk it and whack the 1.9 beam and have done with it.

 

and last solution i can think of is put all the disc set up onto the 1.6 beam andwith 1.6 axels but these are slightly shorter than 1.9 axels which means the bearings will over hang. now this would mean the bearing would probably use it self quicker, but i cant think of any thing else, oh aprt from its a bit of a bodge.

 

what would you lot do?

 

First i would read this http://www.205gtidrivers.com/articles.php?...-rearbeamrefurb

 

You use the press to "press out" the shafts from the trailing arms, once they have been removed.

 

Wackin the 1.9 beam on isnt really a long term solution if its not been refurbed.

 

Post up some pics as its hard to grasp what your doin

 

Andy

[Gavin Waddell 18]

max0 you are thinking of the shafts that go into the suspension tube, im talking about the stub axel this is whatthe hub sits on as well as the discs and calipers

[jackherer 543]

the load sensing compensator is from an ABS setup, if you have another compensator (or in your case bias valve) then you can ditch it.

[888rmb 6]

You can't put 1900 rear hubs on 1600 stub axles. As you correctly say they are different lengths.

You need to put an old hub nut on the end of the stub axle to protect the threads, then hit them with a big hammer, ideally a BIG copper mallet. Make sure the car is securely supported so it doesn't fall off the axle stands or whatever. Ideally you should be giving the stub axles a few really hefty blows with a big hammer, rather than lots of taps with a smaller one. You need to make sure as much of the energy of smacking the stub axles is going into moving the stub axles, rather than rocking the car about. They are an interferance fit in the trailing arm. They will come out!

I wouldn't think of putting your 1900 beam on without first stripping it to assess it's condition. If the 1900 beam is off the car, then you could put one end of it up against a wall and knock the stub axles out of that, to give yourself an indication of how to get them out.

[base-1 17]

Use a proper hammer, big swings will have the 1.6 stub axles out reasonably quickly, you don't need to protect the ends if you aren't going to re-use them, just him them bloody hard!

 

Get the 1.9 trailing arms in the press and get those stub axles out properly, then give the beam on the car and the 1.9 stubs the wire brush treatment, and some copper slip or something to help it slide in, make sure the splines are lined up properly and belt the hell out of them until they are properly in. Sorted

 

Edit - when smackong out the 1.6 stub axles with the big hammer, make sure there is nothing for 10m or so they can hit - like a person or another car. I had to play guard once in case it headed for a car, stopped it with my hand from 5-6 metres away, and f***aduck it hurt like Christ!!

Edited September 22, 2006 by base-1

[yorkshirekowboy 19 1 Cars]

""""and last solution i can think of is put all the disc set up onto the 1.6 beam andwith 1.6 axels but these are slightly shorter than 1.9 axels which means the bearings will over hang. now this would mean the bearing would probably use it self quicker, but i cant think of any thing else, oh aprt from its a bit of a bodge."""""

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im doing thwe same at the mo but noiced that the stub the hub nust screws onto is short, is there anyway of getting round this without having to remove arms or stub? iei using small hub nut???

Edited September 22, 2006 by surferkid205

[Gavin Waddell 18]

right ive come to the conclusion: just been out in the garden with the big hammer and a gas torch and well nothing, even had my dad swinging at it with a sledge hammer and well they wont come out. so im basicall ygonig to put it all the disc set up on to the1.6 stubbies do go for its mot(i know the stubbies are shorter and the nut will not go on all the way but) i need it on the road for its running in and i wont be driving hard. in the mean time im going to rebuild the 1.9 beam with all new trailing arm bearings and shafts and thn will insert these into the the 1.6 beam.

 

suferkid i recommend you do the same, as you said it is a bodge and thataint right.

 

cheers for all the advice

 

 

gavin