TVR Gary 0 Posted September 18, 2006 I was lucky enough to have a pax lap of the ring with a Dutch guy in a 205 S16. I was very impressed with the set up of the car and most importantly the brakes. He has changed his calipers for those from a 307 diesel. He tells me they are a straight replacement and the only mod is you need to use the 307 master cylinder also. He runs with std 307 discs and pads and the brakes brilliant. They are obviously made for a 1300kg car so on a 850kg vehicle they work very well. You also have the added advantage of using std parts. Many of you done this conversion? and is it as simple as he said? Cheers gary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom_m 0 Posted September 18, 2006 i've done it (they are the same capliers as the 206gti180 where my calipers were sourced from) you don't even have to change the MC really, you just get a slightly longer pedal, you'll need longer front hoses to be on the safe side tho. there have been a few topics about this conversion recently, i know hte search function take a couple of goes, but the topics are out there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPGTi 2 Posted September 18, 2006 Yes,it is that simple but when I tied them on my 205 road rally car I hated them. It seemed more like a on / off switch. Also lots of unsprung weight. The discs/ calipers/ pads weigh in at around 25kg (for both sides) If you can drive a car with the setup on, I would try it 1st. Also don't dicount the 266mm discs and calipers from a 307 1.4. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom_m 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Yes,it is that simple but when I tied them on my 205 road rally car I hated them. It seemed more like a on / off switch. Also lots of unsprung weight. The discs/ calipers/ pads weigh in at around 25kg (for both sides) If you can drive a car with the setup on, I would try it 1st. Also don't dicount the 266mm discs and calipers from a 307 1.4. Steve steve did you put a bigger mc at the same time, or leave it standard? i found using a bigger 23mm mc made them like you describe, on or off. using the standard gti MC there is slightly longer pedal travel, but they are very easy to use Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPGTi 2 Posted September 18, 2006 steve did you put a bigger mc at the same time, or leave it standard? left the mc std. Maybe it is more to do with wht I use the car for. I just found that everything locked up too easy on broken surfaces and didn't have the sort of feel I was use to with std brakes. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonzai 2 Posted September 18, 2006 t-daaaaaaa http://www.205gtidrivers.com/articles.php?data=b-307brakes Regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylorspug 7 Posted September 18, 2006 Also lots of unsprung weight. The discs/ calipers/ pads weigh in at around 25kg (for both sides) Steve Exactly why after consideration im sticking with my std 1.9 setup, im just going to look into better pads and getting some cooling ducts sorted out. I agree they are a fantastic upgrade for the simplicity of the job and the performance you get. Track work certainly justifies them, but for my road setup im loathe to start bunging on unsprung weight, especially when im sure i can improve massively on my current system with a little work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted September 18, 2006 @TVR Gary: I assume that was Paskal Morrien? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simes 248 2 Cars Posted September 18, 2006 I've got the 206GTI180 / 307HDI set up running a new original M/C. I do have a brand new slightly larger one from the 405, smaller than the 22.8mm sitting around ready to go on but I've got quite use to the pedal travel now. Follow Banzai's guide should take you about 4 hours all in all from start to finish. Remember though that the rear calipers may have dodgy (snappable) nipples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
