How Hard To Fit A Windscreen?

[Rob_the_Sparky 9]

Just found that my windscreen isn't covered under a thrid party policy (boo hiss) so I have a 309 windscreen to replace. I'm sure the good people of the forum can supply one easily enough but I've never tried to fit one.

 

Anyone got any experience? How hard is it to do? How likely is the screen to break going in?

 

I'm presuming you can get new windscreen rubbers from Pug, anywhere better/cheaper?

 

Thanks all

 

Rob

 

P.S. I have no idea what the pros charge to fit them!

[Jonmurgie 2]

THey are bonded in and hard as feck to replace yourself I believe, unless you know what your doing!

 

Phone around the windscreen places and ask for a 'cash' deal perhaps?

[jackherer 543]

are 309 screens bonded then as 205 ones def aren't? A friend of mine that works for autoglass is pleased when he gets a 205 as its such an easy job!

[smighall 1]

I need to replace the windscreen in my 205 aswell. I didn't think they were bonded though?

[jonah 1]

They are not bonded (on the 205 anyway, don't know about 309), and the seal can be reused if it's not damaged. Mine has been DIY removed and refitted twice and doesn't leak. I think you're more likely to crack the screen getting it out than putting it back in.

 

edit - beaten to it!

Edited September 11, 2006 by jonah

[Jonmurgie 2]

oh, I thought they were... hence it's EASY to crack the screen when removing (Sean)?!

[smckeown 1]

yeah cracked a nice heated screen one when i was stripping the mi16..arse!

[jackherer 543]

the trick I use to remove them is to put 1p and 2p coins from my change jar into the seal all the way round first to hold it back, then it just pushes out with the minimum of force.

 

BTW the rear screen (on a 205) IS bonded in and is impossible to change at home AFAIK

 

its odd that peugeot would go to that effort at the rear and not the front, you'd expect it to have been the other way round...

[j_turnell 137 3 Cars]

Im pretty sure its the same as a 205 screen which is not bonded in.

 

Your best bet is going down a scrappy and cutting the screen you want out using a stanly knife around the edge of the seal, pretty easy.

 

To take your old one out get two people one on each seat and push the screen out in order to save the seal.

 

To put them in you need lots of fairy liquid and some string, run the string around the seal with lots of knots in to stop it coming out then push the screen in as someone else pulls the string which inturn gets the lip of the seal on the inside. Job done.

[feb 47]

As John said try a few people from the yellow pages, I used national windscreens or sth like that, cost £90 cash.

[sonofsam 5]

the trick I use to remove them is to put 1p and 2p coins from my change jar into the seal all the way round first to hold it back, then it just pushes out with the minimum of force

 

Thats a neat trick, I used 3 bicycle tyre levers on mine to edge the lip over.

 

String trick works well, didn't use any fairy though!

[Rob_the_Sparky 9]

Ta, no it isn't bonded same as a 205.

 

I want to replace the screen rubber as it is the wrong one for a car with a sunroof but if it is too hard to get one then I won't bother. Sounds quite easy to fit one though, I'm guess you put the string in the grove of the rubber, put the screen in the grove at one end then pulling he string out raises the edge of the rubber to allow the screen to drop in around the rest of the edge.

 

Rob

[Beastie 1]

It's a really easy job if it isn't bonded in then. I gave up getting screen fitters to come and fit them years ago because they are never as careful with new paintwork as I am If you have a look at the Frost catalogue they list tools for fitting screens which are not expensive. They aren't essential either but they make the job a lot more pleasant!

[Guest RickGTIBaker]

£60 Windscreen Excess... or £90 new...

 

You know what i'm saying

[inferno 1]

yep not bonded... best way is to cut the outter rubber if it looks knackered, then the screen falls out with minimal force. if your buying new rubbers its a doddle... put it on the screen, put string in the groove (strong string mind) sometimes a douse of washing up liquid will make it easyer to fit... put the string ends at the bottom centre of screen and fit bottom lip first... then ideal have some1 put light pressure on the outside as u pull the string!

 

can be dne with 2 screwdrivers if your carefull!

[Baz 421]

Is there amn echo in here?? Sure that's been said once already!!

 

To put them in you need lots of fairy liquid and some string, run the string around the seal with lots of knots in to stop it coming out then push the screen in as someone else pulls the string which inturn gets the lip of the seal on the inside. Job done.

 

 

the trick I use to remove them is to put 1p and 2p coins from my change jar into the seal all the way round first to hold it back, then it just pushes out with the minimum of force.

 

BTW the rear screen (on a 205) IS bonded in and is impossible to change at home AFAIK

 

its odd that peugeot would go to that effort at the rear and not the front, you'd expect it to have been the other way round...

 

Yes would seem a little strange! Can you expand on the penny idea please Kieran? Are the coins placed between the windscreen aperture and seal from the inside, or out? or does it matter?

 

Cheers.

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

BTW the rear screen (on a 205) IS bonded in and is impossible to change at home AFAIK

You can buy the weather seal for the rear screen from Peugeot for under £10 but it is a case of cutting it out usually. (unless you try to close the hatch with to many wheels in the boot & they push the screen out )

 

Graham.

[Rob_the_Sparky 9]

Actually Baz I found the extra detail from inferno quite helpful...

[boombang 2]

to reply to the original question on how hard it is to replace without leaks?

 

If you are RAC auto-windscreens its very hard, requires 2 new screens, requires 4 cancelled appointments and more when you don't bother to turn up, plus another 3 where you do come.

 

We ended up with a clear screen in the end and a refund of £40 of £50 excess and the twat has bonded inside the seal.

 

If you need a new screen or damage it on removal, Miles had a few at £10 each and the string method is the one to use - a couple of big body repair locking plungers to move the screen with helps too, along with a mate to pull the string out so you can put light pressure on.

[jackherer 543]

Can you expand on the penny idea please Kieran? Are the coins placed between the windscreen aperture and seal from the inside, or out? or does it matter?

 

Cheers.

 

they go on the outside, I pull the seal back then put the coins in at 90 degrees to the glass to hold the seal back.

 

 

It's a really easy job if it isn't bonded in then. I gave up getting screen fitters to come and fit them years ago because they are never as careful with new paintwork as I am

 

thats a very good point, I've seen several 205s with rust setting in around the windscreen frame/A pillars due to damage caused by windscreen fitters and for that reason alone I'd go down the diy route everytime.

[Rob_the_Sparky 9]

Same here, my old diesel only had rust around the screen after a "pro" changed it. Only rust on it at 190k miles! Wasn't very impressed...

[Phil H 16]

£60 Windscreen Excess... or £90 new...

 

You know what i'm saying

 

 

...you don't lose your no claims though for a windscreen, so the excess route is better.

Edited September 12, 2006 by Philip Hills

[Ren 0]

I'm a windscreen fitter and all the above is good advice, you're best not to change the rubber unless you really have to though as the new one will be extremely tight to fit. If the rubber is a bit baggy from being taken out and put in a few times you can get a product called Arbomast which you pump inside the rubber around the glass and it will seal it up and make it watertight.

 

HTH

Ren.