Guest justinhincks87 Posted September 9, 2006 Hi there if i was to get a 205 gti 1.6 and pull the engine out and rebuild all the bottom and top end, new rings, bearings, seals would the engine be as powerfull as it was brand new which is 115bhp?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arry 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Hi there if i was to get a 205 gti 1.6 and pull the engine out and rebuild all the bottom and top end, new rings, bearings, seals would the engine be as powerfull as it was brand new which is 115bhp?? Probably not. Don't forget ancillaries like injectors, fuel pump, air flow meter etc - are 15 year old injectors still going to have the flow rate they had when they were new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthemagical 1 Posted September 9, 2006 Hi there if i was to get a 205 gti 1.6 and pull the engine out and rebuild all the bottom and top end, new rings, bearings, seals would the engine be as powerfull as it was brand new which is 115bhp?? would the above have much benefit? any recomendations of how to get the origional power using standard components? my cars been RRed at 110 hp, it's a 1.9 non-cat. thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arry 0 Posted September 9, 2006 would the above have much benefit? any recomendations of how to get the origional power using standard components? my cars been RRed at 110 hp, it's a 1.9 non-cat. thanks Compression test it - if it's low on compression that'll hinder power. New rings, sort the valve seats will help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boombang 2 Posted September 9, 2006 A clean + refurb of the injectors could be worthwhile, along with re-tracking of AFM, service/rebuild of dizzy, making sure you have an OE spec downpipe + exhaust (or Magnex), new air filter, followed by a rolling road session. A few things can be done whilst the head is being refurbed such as 3 angle valve seats and a light skim/decking of the block to raise compression a little. I'm no expert on these engines though but generally those help a bit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest justinhincks87 Posted September 10, 2006 is 110bhp good for a 1.9. arnt they 122 bhp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthemagical 1 Posted September 10, 2006 is 110bhp good for a 1.9. arnt they 122 bhp? exactly, and i think it's 128 bhp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest justinhincks87 Posted September 10, 2006 what do you seriously rekon the 1.6 would be to 60 nowadays then?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arry 0 Posted September 10, 2006 what do you seriously rekon the 1.6 would be to 60 nowadays then?? Slow. Even 1.8 mondeo's will out accelerate it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest justinhincks87 Posted September 10, 2006 no that cant be true. a mondeo 1.8 gets to 60 in 10.6 seconds. come on taht cant be true, i thought people called these GTIs Pocket rockets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted September 10, 2006 unfortunately very true but i must have a good 1.9, as it can keep up with a clio 172... (its bog standard but recently reconned and had a lot of work on the management) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest justinhincks87 Posted September 10, 2006 i think that is real bollox. the 205 should skin it off the mark, im sure the mondeo would overtake after about 60 or 70. why the f*** are people saying that they beat vtrs if they cant beat a f***in mondeo 1.8! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthemagical 1 Posted September 10, 2006 i think this thread has lost sight of the appeal of a 205, it's the corners where it shines. it would be able to muller a mondeo round a track/ point to point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonah 1 Posted September 10, 2006 Hi there if i was to get a 205 gti 1.6 and pull the engine out and rebuild all the bottom and top end, new rings, bearings, seals would the engine be as powerfull as it was brand new which is 115bhp?? You shouldn't need to do any of that IMO. My 1.6 is on well over 100k miles (120k indicated but has been clocked at some point), the bottom end has never been touched, original cam, valves, dizzy, injectors etc., and still makes every bit of power that it did when new according a to well-respected rolling road. Certainly feels lively enough to drive! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted September 11, 2006 is 110bhp good for a 1.9. arnt they 122 bhp?That depends on your thinking & which rr it was done at. 110nhp at the wheels should be a good one imo. The 1.9 often only makes a few bhp more than a similar 1.6, most 1.6's seem to make the book figure where the 1.9's don't but later cat equipped ones seem better at having near the book power. The 1.9 is more about the mid range though. exactly, and i think it's 128 bhp. Most are 128bhp but CAT equipped cars are booked at 122bhp. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest justinhincks87 Posted September 11, 2006 ye 110 bhp at the wheels is good. becuase on the books they say the bhp as from the flywheel dont they? I need to sell my car to get a GTI!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthemagical 1 Posted September 11, 2006 it's 87 bhp at the wheels, 111.6 bhp at the fly wheel. it's the d6b, xu9ja engine. it is 15 years old so some loss has to be expected. it just increases the anticipation of the full power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites