1.6 Turbo Conversion

[bitchass 205 0]

Hello,

 

I've been giving this a little bit of thought lately. I many be in a position to do this in a few weeks time.

 

At the moment i have a 1.6 GTi engine which has only done 35k from new. it pulls well doesn't smoke and doesn't use any water.

 

What i want to know is, is this a worth while conversion. I'm not after masses of power, i quite like the way it goes as it is, but just want a little more punch. I'm up for converting this engine rather than an old knarkered 1.9 or MI, although i know the power will be alot more.

 

Has anyone one here done this conversion? any comments would be helpful.

 

Thanks

 

Michael

[TEKNOPUG 3]

It's worth doing but 300cc if quite a big difference power/torque wise, especially with a turbo. I guess if your engine is truly sound then keep it as it is. You can always increase the capacity at a later date. It's only the crank and pistons which are different, I think,

 

TT used to offer 1.6 and 1.9 conversion. The 1.6 were 160bhp and 1.9's 175bhp.

[bitchass 205 0]

i know this may sound silly, but if i went up to Turbo technics and said can you stick a turbo in here would they do it? or is it more like buying all the parts myself and then finding a garage to do it?

[TEKNOPUG 3]

Buy all the parts yourself, do it yourself. It's really not that hard. Run a search and you'll find LOADS of info.

[bitchass 205 0]

will do.

 

Thanks

[mbayley77 0]

I am interested in this also. What has been found on the search cos i struggle. try searching for 1.6 and see what you get!!!

[TEKNOPUG 3]

1.6 and 1.9 is exactly the same conversion

[Guest rick03054]

TT don't do the conversions anymore, you can still get them to skim pistons for you though.

 

Putting a turbo on a 1.6 is exactly the same procedure as for the 1.9 so no need to search specifically for 1.6. I havn't heard much about turbo'd 1.6's but I'd be interested if anyone can compare the two.

[bitchass 205 0]

1.6 and 1.9 is exactly the same conversion

 

bearing this in mind, and considering the engine i have has done only 35k would it be worth (can it be done?) increasing the capacity of my engine?

The block for the 1.6 is the same as the 1.9 i think but the bore is a little bigger. Is this right?

[TEKNOPUG 3]

The bore is the same (83mm), the crank on the 1.9 gives it a longer stroke - 73mm-88mm.

[bitchass 205 0]

The bore is the same (83mm), the crank on the 1.9 gives it a longer stroke - 73mm-88mm.

 

 

i see, i got confused as to whether it was the crank or the bore. i know that the 1.9 had a sump spacer. i'm guessing this is so the sump doesn't split because of the longer stroke?!

[TEKNOPUG 3]

Just go through the XU Engine mods and performance section and you'll find plenty of posts if you spend some time going through it.

[welshpug 1,657]

stick with the 1.6 if you want, its a revvier lump anyway so would suit a turbo quite well as turbo'ing generally makes the engine a bit "lazy" as it were, with longer stroke engines.

[bitchass 205 0]

stick with the 1.6 if you want, its a revvier lump anyway so would suit a turbo quite well as turbo'ing generally makes the engine a bit "lazy" as it were, with longer stroke engines.

 

I like the cut of your gib, sonny!!!

 

This is what i was thinking, i not expecting to have massive amounts of power, if i want this i'll go and buy something that was designed to have lots, i really like the way the 205 drives and feels, i would just like a little more go.

As far as the revyness of the engine, would the same theory be behind the fiesta rst, that being a 1.6, that had 130bhp from standard, i would be quite happy with 140-150bhp. Personally i'm not sure weather the chassis would cope with a lot more without major moddification (although i'm sure you guys with blowers will tell me otherwise!!)

If i could throw unlimited money at the pug i'd go for a charger. I like the subltly it has over the turbo. tbh

[TEKNOPUG 3]

There's is no subtley with superchargers whatsoever. It's on boost from the word go and is therefore making a load of whining/screaming/whooshing noise even whilst pootering around at low rev's. You can drive around in aturbo all day without ever knowing it's there if you rev it gently. If you wanted around 160bhp it would be more economical to Mi16 it, although a turbo is a different drive altogether.

 

How about a 1.6 Mi16?

[welshpug 1,657]

all depends on how the charger is controlled, on my maters Mk1 Mr2 it has an electronic clutch just like an aircon pump has, so its not boosting all the time but comes in very quickly when needed (due to the nature of a supercharger being able to provide near instant boost) he's also running different diamater pulleys to standard and now runs just over 200bhp (4AGZE 1587cc 16valver)

 

1.6 Mi16? I have though about this, and IIRC the Mi head will fit the 8V bottom end but I havent actualy looked any further into it, with the revviness of the 1.6 XU combined with the flow of the Mi head itd be a great engine.

[timmsy19 3]

i say go for it. sounds like a simple enough job if its the techically the same engine as the 1.9 and only the crank is different.

 

ps are you still coming down when i get my engine fitted??

[bitchass 205 0]

There's is no subtley with superchargers whatsoever. It's on boost from the word go and is therefore making a load of whining/screaming/whooshing noise even whilst pootering around at low rev's. You can drive around in aturbo all day without ever knowing it's there if you rev it gently. If you wanted around 160bhp it would be more economical to Mi16 it, although a turbo is a different drive altogether.

 

How about a 1.6 Mi16?

 

i see your point, the charger would be whining all day long.

 

 

all depends on how the charger is controlled, on my maters Mk1 Mr2 it has an electronic clutch just like an aircon pump has, so its not boosting all the time but comes in very quickly when needed (due to the nature of a supercharger being able to provide near instant boost) he's also running different diamater pulleys to standard and now runs just over 200bhp (4AGZE 1587cc 16valver)

 

1.6 Mi16? I have though about this, and IIRC the Mi head will fit the 8V bottom end but I havent actualy looked any further into it, with the revviness of the 1.6 XU combined with the flow of the Mi head itd be a great engine.

 

so is it that simple, just get an MI head and wack it on the block??

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