acox99 74 1 Cars Posted August 29, 2006 Seen a pair of Jenveys at a good price, but there on an XE red top engine, can they be fitted to an MI, can you buy the adaptors of jenvey for different engines, also are throttle bodies pretty reliable and sturdy? cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted August 29, 2006 It does dpend on which model the TB's are but essentaially the bodies are universal and are put together in pairs to suit an inlet manifold. You need to find out the exact model of Jenvey they are and compare them on here: http://www.jenvey.co.uk/~Bodies1.htm Ideally you want them to be TBS45i Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acox99 74 1 Cars Posted August 29, 2006 What sort of money am i looking at realistically to put thottle bodies on the car? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smckeown 1 Posted August 29, 2006 for new bodies, ecu, sensors, manifold, mapping your looking at roughly £2k...ouch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted August 29, 2006 Have a read of this: http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=45599 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acox99 74 1 Cars Posted August 29, 2006 is it worth it, i want to make a race engine, for hillclimb. what sort of sensors are needed compared to the ones on the existing injection system, can they be used with a turbo engine, also want to get a lumpier cam, and i know you get best results with throttle bodies, do say jenvey suply the manifold, sensors etc? not worried about ecu as will need after market one whatever. anyone got any pros cons, if they have been down this route? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/twin-45-jenvey-throt...1QQcmdZViewItem these are the ones i was looking at Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted August 29, 2006 questions questions... get off your arse and do some searching/reading through the forum, everything you have asked has been covered before so try that Those bodies in the auction look a little different to mine so can't be 100% they will fit the Mi, ask the sell what model number they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boombang 2 Posted August 29, 2006 If they are DCOE pattern (like Weber twin carbs) then you can get a manifold. In fact no matter what you should be able to get a manifold made up to make them fit - its all down to knowing the right people and having the cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acox99 74 1 Cars Posted August 29, 2006 sorry, i have seached, but trawling though the threads, there didnt seem to be much info on things, think i need to try more key words. cheers guys. sorry for being a pain in the arse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted August 29, 2006 Those particular bodies are direct to head, XE fitment, although not impossible, would be a PITAa to fit, would need an adapter made etc. And perhaps not worth running ITB's for a turbo'd engine, not really a benefit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam 4 Posted August 30, 2006 They're direct to head so unfortunately a no-go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 191 Posted August 30, 2006 You should be able to get bodies on and running for less than £2k. This is approximately what you need: Jenvey CKPG03 kit, includes bodies, manifold, linkages, fuel rails. £690+VAT Filter £90+VAT Fuel reg and 2nd hand injectors £80+ VAT ECU from £400-£600+VAT depending on type Loom conversion about £180-£280 +VAT dependoing on who does it. Mapping £200-???? + VAT depending on who does it. Installation £??? Depending on who does it. So a base price of about £1900 including VAT. Or you could source secondhand parts and or use megasquirt, bike bodies etc and have possibly more hassle, but knock a few hundred off. Properly done, bodies will give you more power everywhere, don't just talk about the change to peak power! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted August 30, 2006 The Jenvey 'kit' doesn't include a few essential parts though, this is what I ordered from them for my install: Peugeot Mi16 + TBs - CKPG03 Linkage kit - CLS1 Air Box backplate - Aluminium Flat Backed Filter 430x140x100 Foam - ABF2/100 Throttle Pot (Colvern CP17) - TP1 Total was £1140 inc. VAT Interesting thread about the kit here: http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=43934 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonzai 2 Posted August 30, 2006 ive sourced 2nd hand parts for my bodies costing around 1200 so far, but ive still got a few of the smaller things to get. I envisage itll be about 1500 all in but not proffesionally mapped, ill save that until i can afford matching cam/s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 191 Posted August 30, 2006 (edited) The Jenvey 'kit' doesn't include a few essential parts though, this is what I ordered from them for my install: Peugeot Mi16 + TBs - CKPG03 Linkage kit - CLS1 Air Box backplate - Aluminium Flat Backed Filter 430x140x100 Foam - ABF2/100 Throttle Pot (Colvern CP17) - TP1 Total was £1140 inc. VAT Interesting thread about the kit here: http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=43934 I listed the filter as well! The TPS is furry muff, but you don't have to use the linkage kit, a regular Mi cable and bracket can be used, saving £100. Not to mention that there are people out there selling Jenvey stuff at ex VAT prices. I'm sure QEP would do a decent package deal on the KMS equivalents if you got all the kit at once. Putting TB's on my 1.8 16v (interchangeable with the Mi) went like this: Second hand DTA £450 Loom plug £7.50 and homemade loom about £10 in sundries Complete Inlet/45mm TB's/Trumpets/TPS/linkages/backplate by Colin Satchell £600 ITG Filter £60 OE Cable kit (feckin rip off btw, generic kit for all Pugs it seems) £30 Installing and mapping myself £0 Total= £1157.50 Noise and mid range= priceless Edited August 30, 2006 by sandy309 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonmurgie 2 Posted August 30, 2006 Don't stress mate... I was mearly listing everything you would need were you to call up Jenvey and get all the stuff to fit from them If I were doing it again, I would go with the KMS TB's in an instant... just that Jenvey have the industry name so that's what most people think about when talking Throttle Bodies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites