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sorr

Piston Friction - Too High?

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sorr

I am in the process of rebuilding an Mi engine. Yesterday I deglazed the bores and installed new piston rings. It now takes some considerable pressure to move the piston in the bore, is this normal? By considerable pressure I mean a tap with a large hammer via a block of wood.

 

The bores and rings were well oiled before installation.

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trickywoo

I'm no expert but that does not sound right. The only way I would expect what you describe is if you are trying to push the pistons from the bottom with the head (including spark plugs) fitted, ie you have compression.

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Guest ashnicholls

what do you mean tap with a hammer and wood?

 

what are you tapping, if you put a long bar/socket on the front pulley, it should turn over just pushing the bar.

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SweetBadger

Sounds like somethings not right there, with new liners I found that I could move the pistons fairly easily by hand when I rebuilt mine. Not sure what would cause it, how rough was the finish on the bores after you degalzed them?

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sorr

The pistons are not connected at the moment they are free in the bores, so was tapping on top of them. I will connect them to the crank and see how easy it is to them over with the crank.

 

Had a chat with MattSav and he thinks all is well, but suggest checking the gaps whick sounds like a plan.

 

Thanks for the replies.

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Guest ashnicholls

My 8v pistons all slid up easily. Did not have to hit them with anything?

 

And i thought my engine was stiff?

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j_turnell

If they are just pushed in the liners then there should be a fair bit of friction to move them but you should be able to push them up and down the liner by hand, once connected to the crank try turning the bottom end over and see but you may find the liners will move about.

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Ryan

Have you put new rings on?

 

Mine was quite tight, but I image it'll loosen up once it's been run in.

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ALEX

Mine had brand new pistons and liners and I had to use a breaker bar to turn the crank.

Is the engine upside down with the head off? I had a bit of spilt oil on the bench (assembly oil) it was creating a seal and when i cranked the engine over by hand it would jump to let out the compressed air. Cant beat new pistons and liners.

If its not locked up before you start it up give it a couple of turns by hand with a breaker bar on the crank pulley.

 

Edit BTW. I thought the same the first time I built my engine, so yes it's normal

Edited by ALEX

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James_R

just check the ring gaps with a feeler gauge and the ring in bore to be safe/peace of mind

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