Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 19, 2006 I have a wierd grumbling noise started from the front suspension when I turn. It happens at all speeds but most loud when driving/turning slowly. Is my steering rack on its way out? I cant really explain what the sound is like but i'll have a go. . . grrrrrrrrrr The car has been recently lowered 35mm on new springs and struts. Would this have anything to do with it? Any ideas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildejon 7 Posted July 19, 2006 Does it happen when you go both left and right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 19, 2006 (edited) Yes both ways. Its like a creaking noise?! Edited July 19, 2006 by Edp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simes 248 2 Cars Posted July 19, 2006 Does it do it whilst moving? Is it a constant grinding type sound? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuD 0 Posted July 19, 2006 Is it only as you are turning the steering wheel or any time you are moving and the road wheels are straight ahead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 20, 2006 its fine when i'm driving straight ahead, only when turning into corners and parking up. It does it even with the engine off and im just turning the steering wheel. Its not a grinding noise. Its definatley coming from the steering somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pug_101 0 Posted July 20, 2006 seized top mounts, loose subframe, wheel bearings, lower ball joint or Track control balljoint in that order. Also worth checking the route of the brake caliper hoses and making sure they are loose at full lock both ways. Oh and check the wheel bolts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 20, 2006 Brand new top mounts, Subframe has new bolts, Fukced wheel bearings make a humming noise when driving and theres no hum, Lower ball joint or Track control balljoint could be but i would suspect it would make banging noises when hitting pot holes and drain covers not a grumbling noise. It has new braided hoses which dont touch anything when it steers. The wheel bolts are nipped up nice and tight. I have a feeling its the steering rack........cheers anyway! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simes 248 2 Cars Posted July 20, 2006 Disconnect the lower end of each drop link and see if that makes a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNOPUG 3 Posted July 20, 2006 CV joints? Is it worse in reverse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 20, 2006 Simes, i will do that tomorrow when i get home from work. Tekno, Im not sure to be honest, i will take it to a car park and see. I got her up in the air earlier and turned the wheels by hand, Its wierd becuase it makes the noise inside the car Maybe its the steering colomn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mat1227 1 Posted July 21, 2006 (edited) i'm not sure if this helps but my car has exactly the same symptoms, took it into the local pug dealer for something unrelated and thought I'd ask the opinion of one of the mechanics while I was there. having had a play around, he said it was definitely the steering rack, he seemed to be saying that something had perished and caused the lubricant to leak out. I don't have a clue mechanically (as I'm sure you can tell from the above ), but thought I'd add this for what it's worth. mat Edited July 21, 2006 by mat1227 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherly 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Edp said: I got her up in the air earlier and turned the wheels by hand, Its wierd becuase it makes the noise inside the car Maybe its the steering colomn? I've got exactly the same problem with mine and I agree, as wierd as it sounds, it does sound louder in the drivers footwell. Also, oddly enough, the noise seems to get worse either after a longish drive or if the weather is really hot. I can drive the 5 miles to work in the morning without any noise but if I go much futher it then starts graunching. Mart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 26, 2006 Exactly! Im sure its a f***ed steering rack which once it warms up starts making wierd noises. Unless its the steering colomn? Someone mentioned bushes but why would the noise be so loud in the footwell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherly 0 Posted July 26, 2006 I found something out last night which is causing my creaking noises...... Turns out that the drivers side ARB drop link is shagged. The rubber covering the top ball-joint had perished and the joint had rusted and gone stiff. When the steering was turning the joint was sticking and unsticking as it rotated, transmitting a creaking noise through the spring/strut. I found it by disconnecting the rack at each hub and then swivelling each strut by hand. The noise was still present on the driver side - ruling out the rack. I then disconnected the top of the ARB link (noticed the split boot) and rotated the strut again - the noise had disappeared. I removed it last night and drove the car home and now have silent steering. I've not had a chance to test it over a longer journey but I'm confident it's cured it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 26, 2006 Thats fukced my theory of a sparkly new steering rack with the agreement from the missus! New droplinks it is then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherly 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Edp said: Thats fukced my theory of a sparkly new steering rack with the agreement from the missus! New droplinks it is then Obviously check it all out first though - it could well still be your rack. It does sound very similar to what I've been experiencing though. Just for the record - Peugeot want £103.40 each for droplinks So that was me straight down to my local motor factors to buy a £20 cheapo special which is probably made of cheese, which I'll probably be replacing again in a few thousand miles......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonah 1 Posted July 27, 2006 Could just be that the grease has dried up from the rubber grommet where the steering column goes through the bulkhead... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted July 27, 2006 Had a look at my droplinks and although the passenger side one looks ok the drivers one has dried up and the clip holding the rubber has fallen off. Looks like the problem to me. I'll keep you posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roland rat 11 Posted September 23, 2006 Edp said: Had a look at my droplinks and although the passenger side one looks ok the drivers one has dried up and the clip holding the rubber has fallen off. Looks like the problem to me. I'll keep you posted. did getting new droplinks fitted sort this out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sartago Posted September 26, 2006 there's something going on with my car too... actually two different noises that i can even feel in the steering wheel. since i dont know many of the names you are calling to the car's parts, please talk to me as if i was four. 1 - when i engage reverse (eg. side parking) and then brake gently, most of the times the front wheels seem to block for an instant.. this comes with a noise and a deep "pock!" sound from the steering column (?). it sometimes doesn't make a sound at all and brakes smoothly... so there must be a pattern, which i haven't identified yet :/ 2 - when i drive on the road there's a situation - *only* when i turn right (no matter the speed, but most noticeable when driving faster) - in which a grumbling noise comes out also from the steering column, around the same place described in the "other" noise. any clues for what this might be? i'm the (proud ) 3rd owner of this 1988 1.6 GTI, with just a few mods from the original, but the 2nd owner gave little maintenance to the car and it was stalled for a couple of years, just before i got it (i know nothing prior to that). cheers, jd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faz85 0 Posted September 26, 2006 Hi JD, The first problem you describe sounds like a problem i used to have on a previous 306 i used to own...during parallel parking sometimes, the steering would tighten up and then make the afore mentioned "pock" sound before steering as normal again, however that car had power steering and the problem was attributed to a faulty steering pump (so probably not much help to you). I lived with the problem for the entire time i owned the car without any serious problem developing. Faraz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted September 26, 2006 It ended up being the steering wheel rubber gaiter where the shaft goes through the bulkhead. The hot weather must have made it tight meaning it 'moaned' when i steered anywhere. A bit of grease and hey presto no more groans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rippthrough 98 Posted September 26, 2006 If it helps anyone I've just got a grumbling noise from my left strut for about an 1/8 off full lock - it's had new top mount bearings etc, so waswn't sure what it was - anyway, checked it today, and the spring pan is touchings the top mount God knows what's happened there. ( didn't take it off, I'm not very well, volunteers welcome!) -Phillip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
