peter 20 Posted June 8, 2006 Right been running my 2.0 turbo on the road for about 2 months now with the new engine and 1.9 box its all perfect however after lowering it 50mm it just seems to kill the drive shafts on both sides.Posibly because its to low but ive never heard of any one else having any problems and its not as if the engine is putting out a stupid amount of torque either all be it they are just 1.6 shafts.Any ideas?Could i have possibly fitted somthing wrong which would cause more wear? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete C 0 Posted June 8, 2006 (edited) 1.6 driveshafts are not as substantial as 1.9 shafts, in fact I think they're the same as some lesser models so they're probably just not up to the job. Lowering it that much won't help either, probably putting more stress on the bearings. If you upgrade to 1.9 hubs at the front, then next time you can fit 1.9 shafts, everything else (brakes etc) should just bolt to the 1.9 hubs Edited June 8, 2006 by Pete C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter 20 Posted June 8, 2006 Well ive just bought 309 gti hubs shafts and track arms so i hope they will be up to the job however with the negative camber they are going to create it could make it worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted June 8, 2006 A tilted engine may not help either, unfortunately Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam 4 Posted June 8, 2006 I always thought the point of a driveshaft was the theory of 'constant velocity', i.e. they work at different angles. So lowering the car may, in theory, make them run straighter if anything. I've ran a 'lowish' car for 4 years and still run the original shafts (bar one I changed recently because the boot split and I was lazy). I think the issue with ride height and shafts in non-sense. Perhaps you just got some mickey mouse driveshafts, try a different brand perhaps. GKN seem to be OK (GSF Supplied, or always used to be). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craigb 2 Posted June 9, 2006 Are you snapping shafts or bursting CV joints? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shevy 4 Posted June 9, 2006 I used to suffer the same problem in my old 1.6 GTi, that was lowered 60mm on the front. Not only did the gaitors keep splitting but the CV joint keep going on them aswell and this was having original driveshafts from Peugeot fitted !!! Eventually I got so fed up and was told to change to the stronger 1.9 setup, so I made the most of it and changed to 309 setup on the front Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter 20 Posted June 9, 2006 Perhaps you just got some mickey mouse driveshafts, try a different brand perhaps. GKN seem to be OK (GSF Supplied, or always used to be The first two shafts were original peugeot items and then AMK items. Are you snapping shafts or bursting CV joints? The first one snapped clean throught the cv joint itself on the long driveshaft and i was left with part of the joint stuck in the hub but the rest have just started to knock badly so i changd them. However the the car isnt exactly standard and has enough torque to spin the wheels in third when its dry.The tires arnt that special either continental sportcaontact2s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C_W 3 1 Cars Posted June 10, 2006 It doesn't sound like a torque problem to me per se. On a light car even with big power you don't tend to have problems with drivetrain as the light weight reduces the stress a great deal as I find mine is very very light on the clutch too. Do you do a lot of hard standing starts? or accelerating hard with a lot of lock on out of junctions? this might wear them out but it sounds like they're just running at less than ideal angles. I've never had problems with driveshafts (only bought one set, GKN) even after 50 trackdays of thrashing and over 100,000miles of road driving. I know the Mi16 doesn't output as much torque as the turbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted June 10, 2006 My friends 50/60mm low 1.6 also ate its driveshafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craigb 2 Posted June 12, 2006 Sounds like an angle issue to me.. With remanufactured shafts , which almost all are now , there is not as much meat in the CV cups , running lower is going to change the angle and thus the pressure point in the joint . At excessive angles they just aren't up to the job . So an extra degree of caution is needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted June 12, 2006 Also sounds like an angle issue to me, if the car is lowered to far the driveshafts have no give in them between the joints so they will jam solid easier which could cause them to snap. I run mine on 1.6 front set up (GKN shafts) & my car has 140bhp @ the fly, is lowered approx 40mm but I've had no problems on mine yet & that includes several trackdays. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_the_Sparky 9 Posted June 12, 2006 And Saveloy runs a 1.6 set-up on his turbo with as far as I know no problems and his Turbo isn't short on a few horses. I'd suspect angle rather than torque/power issues. Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom_m 0 Posted June 13, 2006 the tilt on the turbo engine probably isn't helping either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuqa 0 Posted June 13, 2006 the tilt on the turbo engine probably isn't helping either. mine is tilted also... but running 1.9 shafts.. lowered 40mm and has been fine for 3+yrs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted June 14, 2006 mine is tilted also... but running 1.9 shafts.. lowered 40mm and has been fine for 3+yrs I ran my Mi16 with it tilted for a long time and my old, original driveshafts were fine (and still are). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
