Alan_M 66 1 Cars Posted May 31, 2006 Another issue to solve before MOT time, is the fact my fuel filter leaks at the banjo. Now, I know I could probably sort this by using new copper seals and a new fuel-line clip but, I would rather sort it by changing the system. I've heard that the 405 filter is better due to the lines being crimped onto the filter rather than a clip? I think Wurzel mentioned some time ago that he used a VW filter? Can anybody shed any light on this, as I don't trust the current setup at all! Thanks Alan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duroc 2 1 Cars Posted May 31, 2006 The Filter shouldn't be an issue, as long as you've sorted the '8v fuel filter banjo to different sized Mi16 fuel rail' issue. e.g. http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...opic=48124&st=0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_M 66 1 Cars Posted June 1, 2006 Already got an 8mm banjo....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted June 1, 2006 I got bored worrying about the fuel systems in mine and my mates 205 Mi16s leaking so I went to a hydraulic suppler and got them to crimp up some hoses with fittings to run from the pump, through the bulkhead and straight to the fuel rail with the standard filter relocated to the inner wing. I've never had a problem with the standard banjos sealing as long as I've used new copper washers which come with new filters anyway but with the filter on the wing its much easier to tighten and inspect for leaks plus its further from the exhaust manifold. I'll post some pics soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Weaver 2 Posted June 1, 2006 I'm going to replace mine later on with a single inline filter - there are some on ebay that would do the job. Will probably fit it under the car near the tank, rather than where it is now near the hot manifold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edd-XS 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Am I right in saying that you can use any fuel filter providing it can flow enough fuel? Would it be possible to extend the old fuel lines (metal ones attached to the bulkhead) with rubber hosing to a filter in a better location? I may do this when I fit the Mi as since I caught my fuel filter leaking near my manifold to say I was less than happy with its current location is an understatment! Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam 4 Posted June 1, 2006 Just go to a motor factors and get a universal metal filter with 8mm tails. If you want you can stick it where the jack normally goes like jackherer says. Cheaper than the standard GTI one too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ablister 31 Posted June 1, 2006 i'm using rubber pipe straight from the tank to the filter as i gave up trying the bend the fuel pipe the correct way (i assumed the proper peugeot pipe would come all bent correctly, instead it was just a roll of pipe!). I use the gti6/406 v6 coupe fuel filter as it's smaller (plus it was free). It needs the quick release clips but the hdi serine fluid comes with a kit with brand new clips that have 8mm tails so these are ideal for the fuel pipe and the filter. I have lots of spare quick release clips and brand new fuel filters if anyone wants them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wurzel 16 Posted June 2, 2006 Yep, the fuel leak around the banjo area was a real issue for me also, despite using all new filters and washers. In the end, I got so fed up with trying to get access to the fuel filter, I pulled all the pressure hose out from fuel tank to filter and replaced with fuel injection hose. This was covered at the mounting points with suitable protection and wirelocked to the original hose clips. This let me extend the fuel supply line up past the point where the original fuel filter sat and to the inner wing where the oe jack used to sit. I then got a VW Passat 1.8 CL (1995) fuel filter as this is the same size as the Pug filter but with inline connections. Proper fuel hose clips were used. The original fuel filter clamp can be used to clamp the VW cannister which was then bolted to the point where the jack used to get secured. I will be replacing the fuel return line with rubber hosing as soon as I have two minutes. The whole job took less time than it used to trying to remove the filter and get spanners on to the banjos etc. I'll get a piccy later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veero 1 Posted June 2, 2006 Yeah I put a brand new filter and washers on when i did my Mi, cranked it over to get oil pressure, then hoooked up the fuel pump fuse and it spewed petrol everywhere thanks to a badly machined washer Much faffing and a new filter it's ok but is a constant worry. I like the idea of an inline filter nearer the tank away from hot things, no banjos or washers to leak etc. Also it would give better access to the Mi16 cambelt cover bolt in that corner which with the filtetr there is a royal pain in the ass to get to. Veero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_M 66 1 Cars Posted June 2, 2006 Yep, the fuel leak around the banjo area was a real issue for me also, despite using all new filters and washers. In the end, I got so fed up with trying to get access to the fuel filter, I pulled all the pressure hose out from fuel tank to filter and replaced with fuel injection hose. This was covered at the mounting points with suitable protection and wirelocked to the original hose clips. This let me extend the fuel supply line up past the point where the original fuel filter sat and to the inner wing where the oe jack used to sit. I then got a VW Passat 1.8 CL (1995) fuel filter as this is the same size as the Pug filter but with inline connections. Proper fuel hose clips were used. The original fuel filter clamp can be used to clamp the VW cannister which was then bolted to the point where the jack used to get secured. I will be replacing the fuel return line with rubber hosing as soon as I have two minutes. The whole job took less time than it used to trying to remove the filter and get spanners on to the banjos etc. I'll get a piccy later Nice idea, but I've used that area where the jack used to be for the Mi16 injection relay box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Weaver 2 Posted June 2, 2006 Just bolt an inline filter under the car near the fuel tank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simes 248 2 Cars Posted June 2, 2006 Nice idea, but I've used that area where the jack used to be for the Mi16 injection relay box You can put all that inside around where the ECU lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KRISKARRERA 2 1 Cars Posted June 2, 2006 Are the internals of all fuel filters basically the same? The 205/309 filter is alot cheaper that the 405 filter so maybe I could be tight and get away with using a universal one on the 405. Mines only 3 years old but they sure corrode quickly when under the car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_M 66 1 Cars Posted June 3, 2006 You can put all that inside around where the ECU lives. Not on mine you can't! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted June 3, 2006 Not on mine you can't! I suspect you have a 405 loom and Simes has a BX one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_M 66 1 Cars Posted July 17, 2006 Are the internals of all fuel filters basically the same? The 205/309 filter is alot cheaper that the 405 filter so maybe I could be tight and get away with using a universal one on the 405. Mines only 3 years old but they sure corrode quickly when under the car. After mcuh looking through the filters in Halfords, the 405 Mi16 one has metal tails on it so not needing banjo type connections. This is one option, but I would prefer to relocate the filter all together. Can someone give me a hint as to what inline filter I need, or where I can get one from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_the_Sparky 9 Posted July 17, 2006 I'd try looking at kit car type catalogues as these guys must be selecting fuel filters all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNOPUG 3 Posted July 17, 2006 I wouldn't put it under the car - not very well protect if ever you go off-roading Better to move the ECU and locate the filter where the jack is. That's what I intend to do on mine but it was such a pain just replacing it in the standard position that I took it to my local garage and even they cursed at what a bastard job it was. Still, it doesn't leak at the moment. Will wait until I only have one fuel line instead of two before I relocate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Weaver 2 Posted July 18, 2006 There are plenty of cars running with the filter underneath, though i'm sure there are better locations to use. Re the actual filter, I was looking at these - Ebay Fuel filter Expensive, but they have replaceable elements, and they do look cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted July 18, 2006 There are plenty of cars running with the filter underneath, though i'm sure there are better locations to use. Re the actual filter, I was looking at these - Ebay Fuel filter Expensive, but they have replaceable elements, and they do look cool a mate of mine has a similar replaceable element fuel filter on his S16, made by K & N! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveW 6 Posted July 18, 2006 Them K & N ones look nice pricey mind you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted July 18, 2006 Them K & N ones look nice pricey mind you oh really? I might sell the spare one I have in the garage then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) I used a metal Vauxhall one on my Skip. This is also mounted to the jack fastener with extended fuel lines. the original lines were cut under the car and diverted up towards the offside strut like on the 205 diesels. the reason for this was because the GTI ones come right up by where the turbo sits and I didn't reckon this was a good idea!! There is a pic if you follow this link http://www.pughosting.co.uk/photopost/data...Skip-Engine.jpg Edited July 18, 2006 by Henry Yorke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
