inferno 1 Posted May 26, 2006 this weekend its all go for my turbo 309.... so just wanted to know if anyones put a turbo in one here and can give me an idea on how much space there is to fit pipes ect after the engine and box are mounted! on my zx turbo i had the engine back out 3 times to fit pipes and mod the bulkhead ect. so my initial concerns are... will i have access to change the fuel lines? will i have access to the elbow pipe from the intake of the turbo to fit it? will i have good access to the heater pipe on the back of the engine where the main water pipe is? how far from the slam panel is the throttle body going to be and how far from centre? (for intercooler mounting purposes) how much modding will the downpipe need? how accessable is the timing belt ? should i leave the covers off? any info before i dive in would be great, otherwise its three days of struggling in the rain... sick off the sight of the empty engine bay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveW 6 Posted May 26, 2006 loads of room in a 309! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted May 26, 2006 Why do you keep telling me you're gonna scrap it then?? loads of room in a 309! Yep, it has a huge boot, and 2 extra doors!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 26, 2006 cos i decided tonight ill go ahead with it... but if theres any hitches im towing it to gibbs! guvners screwing cos i have 3 cars off the road taking up space now! engine n box got nicked so im using a desel 205 box and got given a brand new mi16 clutch today dave is your moter that ming blue color?! same as mine! is it turbo'd? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted May 27, 2006 Did'nt Sander Swinkels have a turbo 309.. Anyway yeh there is loads more room in the engine bay, especially upfront. I remember the 309 i stripped with 2Pugs for its air-con, you could fit a whopper IC infront of the rad. On a 205 the inlet on the 2.0l turbo sits very close to radiator, still enough room to get a 90 in there though. All your other concerns will be answered when you come to build it ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNOPUG 3 Posted May 27, 2006 There used to be a 309 turbo saloon car race series in France...so bloody loads at one point. Plus all the 309 TT's and conversions etc.....you just have a 205, only with more room, so everything should be a little bit easier..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted May 27, 2006 Why do you keep telling me you're gonna scrap it then?? haha thats the first thing I thought, I've got about eight text messages from you saying its off to the breakers, the last one was 12:06 yesterday just get on with it ffs mate, and talk to me about fuel lines like I said in another thread, I'm testing a braided hose kit for Mi16s at the moment, maybe we can sort a turbo one out too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNOPUG 3 Posted May 27, 2006 Dave Perry had a pukka 309 TT - 230+bhp, was in loads of magazines.....got sold to a girl who ripped out the engine and stuck it in a 205....smart cookie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted May 27, 2006 Dave Perry had a pukka 309 TT - 230+bhp, was in loads of magazines.....got sold to a girl who ripped out the engine and stuck it in a 205....smart cookie I dont really want to get involved in this 205 vs 309 thing but its safe to say a 309 wouldn't be my first choice. Saying that I wouldn't rip an engine out of a perfectly good one for a 205 because they're not different enough for it to be worth it, thats just a lot of work for very little gain IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 27, 2006 f***! i want a left hooker! the engines in, but had to take the inlet pipe off the turbo to get it in... absolutely no room there for it... wounded hope it dont rain tomorow im f***ing soaked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 28, 2006 simple answer.... the turbo dont fit in the 309 the fuel pipes r in the way (can be moved) the gear linkadges hit the turbo and the clutch cable hits the turbo inlet pipe. cant get the bottom mount on any1 wnat any spares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest davetibbs Posted May 28, 2006 How did Ecosse do it with that green one (Steve Dolans?) then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 28, 2006 i dont know and probably dont have the funds if i did know! the vac servos wedged against the turbo inlet too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNOPUG 3 Posted May 28, 2006 Are you using the XU10 lump? If so, ditch the exhaust manifold and get a TT one. There are at THREE for sale right now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonofsam 5 Posted May 28, 2006 It'll fit, extend the lower engine mount. and the gear linkage can be bent down the accomadate..or grind of the big bolt it fouls on or fit a smaller headed bolt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) the TT manifold will mean a new turbo and pipework too... thatd cost more than the cars worth... lenthening the bottom mount will not clear a gap on the servo. heres some pics http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pug309twin40s...no/DSC00137.JPG http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pug309twin40s...no/DSC00136.JPG http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pug309twin40s...no/DSC00135.JPG and then how am i meant to fit the additional pipes in this pic? http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pug309twin40s...no/DSC00104.JPG Edited May 28, 2006 by inferno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
