jacobs53 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Hi only owning my 205 for a week is proving costly!!!!! Today I was driving down a national speed limit road, hitting 50 mph when i turned right (not a sharp corner at all) and the car felt like it was turning itself after id stopped turning!!! I thought this was a little weird so i jacked up the car and the wishbone ball joint is shot! (f***ing thing!) and when turning the wheel from side to side the shock absorbers are making a knocking noise (noise from top of shock)... is this the shock bearings? from the recipts I have it had new shocks in 2004 so anybody know whats up with it? lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom_m 0 Posted May 25, 2006 (edited) yeah sounds like the top mount bearings, but these are totally separate to the shocks and probably weren't replaced when the shocks were, unless you have receipts that say otherwise. Edited May 25, 2006 by tom_m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacobs53 0 Posted May 25, 2006 when i looked in the haynes book of lies, There isn't a bearing as such but a rubber cone shaped device???? Which bit needs replacing? lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mi16nut 0 Posted May 25, 2006 There is a flat bearing up there as well as the rubber donut. You can get them separately or as a kit at GSF. The bearing on it's own is listed for a Citroen Berlingo I think. Mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted May 25, 2006 when i looked in the haynes book of lies, There isn't a bearing as such but a rubber cone shaped device???? Thats what I thought originally, but there is a bearing (its a flat disc shaped thing) and a rubber bush. Either could be causing your problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacobs53 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Im going to replace the wishbone tomorrow, im coming to FCS can anybody have a listen and confirm that it is definitly the top mount? lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEKNOPUG 3 Posted May 25, 2006 Slightly off-topic but I've read a lot of these topics regarding recently bought cars, (and this applies to everyone on this forum and is not meant as a slight to Jacobs53) that even the last of the GTi's are pushing 13 years old now. They were never designed nor built to last more than 7-8 years. If you get one, budget on replacing the ENTIRE drivetrain/suspension/brake system. Everything will fail in time and sooner rather then later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin23 10 Posted May 26, 2006 I'll second that. New shocks, springs, top mounts, drop links, rear beam rebuild, new bushes front and rear are going to be needed if the car hasn't already been 'refreshed'. Plus there is NO point in driving a 205 GTI with shot suspension Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoSimon 0 Posted May 26, 2006 also make sure it is just the ball joint on the bottom arm that is shot. mine egg shaped the bottom of the hub too!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted May 26, 2006 Yeah, I've replaced absolutley everything on mine bar the shocks, which will have to wait untill I can afford soem good ones. It's not that expensive if you can do most of it yourself. OK, so I did salvage the rebuilt beam from my 1.9 which saved a lot of money, but to replace stuff like bushes, top mount bearing etc really doesn;t cost a lot and is not that difficult if you have the tools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hengti 2 Posted May 26, 2006 this might be a good thread to fire up one of those lists of things to be checking for to start off with, when looking for problems in the front suspension/steering, things to consider might include : tyre condition/pressure wheel condition engine mounts subframe mounts driveshafts (inc cv joints) bottom arms (both inner bushes and balljoint) steering rack/column and track rod ends - and tracking! dampers/springs, rubbers and bearings anti roll bar, bushes and clamp mountings drop links wheel bearings warped/cracked discs knackered capiler sliders i'm sure there's more others can add how about a list of the rear components to be checking as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacobs53 0 Posted May 26, 2006 well at the present, it has a recon rear beam, new shocks, new tyres and thats about it Il check the hub locating hole when i replace the wishbone, and damper bearings lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richsmells 2 Posted May 27, 2006 If the topmounts are knocking/creaking when the wheel is turning it's very likely to be the bearing. When Anthony fitted new shocks to my car, I replaced the rubber doughnuts but forgot the bearings. The whole topmount kit is available from pug for about £40 and for that you get shiny new metal topmounts, flat bearings and rubbers. But you can just replace the rubbers and bearings for very little. I believe mine had been replaced at some point as the bearnings were okay and hadn't disintegrated but I think I will replace them as i've almost replaced everything else! Just loosen the castleated nut off under the bonnet but don't remove it. Remove strut from hub and remove three nuts from topmount. Remove strut/spring from wheel arch. Attach spring compressors, compress spring. Remove castleated nut and the topmount should fall off, try to remember what order the bits of the topmount go together. Refitting is reverse of removal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted May 27, 2006 I'll second that. New shocks, springs, top mounts, drop links, rear beam rebuild, new bushes front and rear are going to be needed if the car hasn't already been 'refreshed'. Plus there is NO point in driving a 205 GTI with shot suspension I agree with all of that 100% except for shocks. I've only seen one knackered 205 shock ever and it must have been damaged I reckon. The only way to prove this though is to change everything on a 205 except for the shocks, which not very many people do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
