205_sunderland 4 Posted May 15, 2006 I fitted goodyear eagle f1's to me 205 in january (195,50 15). The back tyres have alot of tread left but the front however has a mere 2 mm or so left, ive done somwhere in the region of 5 or 6k over this period. The tracking was out by sight not so long ago, but after having it done the car now wants to travel right by itself and i have a sqeeking noise on the drivers side wheel, which becomes slightly louder wehn i turn right too. any ideas why i have animalised these tyres in 6 month. they have worn evenly regards michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karlos72 0 Posted May 15, 2006 Should definately not be pulling right, your car should really move to the left when you release the wheel so that if you fall asleep say, you dont stray into oncoming traffic. Sounds like a tracking issue, its easy to knock out of line, riding kerbs etc. My advice is make sure you get it tracked using four-wheel alignment and stay and watch them do it. I worked at ATS for 18 months and standing under the car with a spanner and doing absolutely nothing was common practice. And remember to ask them exactly how much its out, in fact, if you can get them to show you, so much the better. Ive never seen a car where the tracking is bang on, so they'll say its out. If its less than 3 points then its unlikely to be noticeable when driving. IMO 205s eat front tyres, especially if you're hammering it. Still 5-6K aint much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 15, 2006 well the steering definetly lighter, but the pulling at times is weird, i thought at first my tyres may be worn that way as i did watch them do it so thought it was ok, only thing was that he didnt put the lock on the steering wheel and he asked if the wheel bein tiny bit out was ok and i agreed because it was barely noticeable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karlos72 0 Posted May 15, 2006 well the steering definetly lighter, but the pulling at times is weird, i thought at first my tyres may be worn that way as i did watch them do it so thought it was ok, only thing was that he didnt put the lock on the steering wheel and he asked if the wheel bein tiny bit out was ok and i agreed because it was barely noticeable Theres your problem. If the steering wheel isnt locked it will make a massive difference, epecially on a 205, where the steering is pretty sensitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted May 15, 2006 I got 20k miles out of a set of GSD3 Eagles, though I did rotate the front and back tyres. That was driving like a maniac fairly often, well around roundabouts and twisty bits anyway! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tagy 1 Posted May 15, 2006 they do seem to eat F1's on the front imo, 6K is a little low maybe but not that strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hengti 2 Posted May 15, 2006 something's v wrong if you're only getting 5-6k out of the front tyres! i get 20k-30k ish no problems too weird that they've worn evenly though - if you've any misalignment issues, they usually show up in uneven wear. not a loaded question - but how are you driving it? otherwise - best to go through the suspension components and check for wear in everything (loads of info on the search function) - then (after you've fixed whatever you might find), get it tracked up again btw, cars with v sensitive steering (like 205s!) tend to pull to the left on our roads, as they follow the camber of the road very keenly (roads are cambered to allow for drainage) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 15, 2006 Im taking it back to the garage tomoro and having it re-checked as im sort of a regular so they will check it again for free hopefully. I do drive the car hard at times but i never wheel spin or anything like that. I checked all the suspension not so long ago with me dad so i know its ok. And checked it when i lowered it. The car has done 7k really as it had 131 when i brought it on the road this year and now has 137ish. regards michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonD6B 0 Posted May 15, 2006 You should always check your tracking when fitting new tyres really as a test doesn't normally cost anything if it doesn't need altering. Once a tyre starts to wear, through one problem or another it will continue to wear like that even when the problem is resolved. If it's pulling to the right it could be down to the fact that you're driving on the wrong side of the road? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 16, 2006 they did the tracking again for free, but they checked me bottom arm and ball joint has play in it:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 19, 2006 new bottom arm fitted and i put me lower brace on while i had the chance, will i need it re-tracking? regards michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonD6B 0 Posted May 19, 2006 I would have it checked after any work on the steering/suspension side TBH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) car still darts to side when i back off from acceleration? and i got knokcing on back end so i think i gunna fit a new rear beam and shockers some time but car driving alot better but still couple of knocks? already got new shocks in garage to fit on front when i get a chance. I can see this being a very long summer of work Edited May 19, 2006 by 205_sunderland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hengti 2 Posted May 20, 2006 car still darts to side when i back off from acceleration? and i got knokcing on back end so i think i gunna fit a new rear beam and shockers some time but car driving alot better but still couple of knocks? already got new shocks in garage to fit on front when i get a chance. I can see this being a very long summer of work it's hard work going through everything on a car with shot suspension - but once it's done, you'll be much happier with it probably best to spend some time underneath it, make a list of all the components that wear (a Haynes manual will help - and there are lists on the search function) - and then go through checking everything and fixing as necessary. always get the tracking done after completing any work. a handy diagnostic tip for knocking noises (mainly from the front) you get whilst the car is stationary - feel around under the car so that you can exactly diagnose what's knocking (usually the droplinks/bottom arm balljoints/track rod ends) whilst an assistant gently bounces the car or waggles the steering knocking from the rear might be as simple as a semi-seized h'brake cable/mech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 20, 2006 yeah the droplinks look like theyve seen better days but bottom arms which were on,were only changed 10k ago aparently, Now only one left on and theres no play in balljoint and bushes so i know booth arms are ok now. Im thinking i should maybe change drops links nad shock as i have the new shocks sitting there. I have a good condition 205 rallye rear beam which will be exactly the same as mine apart from the brakes i think? so when i get a chance i going to emove mine change brakes over and fit that with new dampers too. The car handles alot better now and with two braces i can feel alot of improved stability in front end, thanks fr help everyone i gunna try to sort it but at the mo it alos needs master cylinder, brake compensator, new tyres next couple of month nad new disks nad pads, so im tight for cash with only 40 quid a week to spend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 244 3 Cars Posted May 20, 2006 Drop links have nothing to do with it veering side to side so they won't stop it. A UK spec Rallye beam will be the same as an XS so different to a GTi beam. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danpug 1 Posted May 20, 2006 Are you positive there is no play at all in the w/bone bushes? Both my car and a mates would pull to one side on acceleration then pull to the other when you lift off, turned out to be a tiny amount of play in one bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aw11_hgt 0 Posted May 20, 2006 I fitted goodyear eagle f1's to me 205 in january (195,50 15). The back tyres have alot of tread left but the front however has a mere 2 mm or so left, ive done somwhere in the region of 5 or 6k over this period. The tracking was out by sight not so long ago, but after having it done the car now wants to travel right by itself and i have a sqeeking noise on the drivers side wheel, which becomes slightly louder wehn i turn right too. any ideas why i have animalised these tyres in 6 month. they have worn evenly regards michael Are you sure the tyre wear is not simply enthusiastic driving? Its just that they have worn evenly. Another point ot bear in mind is now that they are near the end of their life, any mis-alignment issue (however slight) tend to show up more with worn tyres - you would probably find that if you put new tyres on the alignment would be restored to what it was when the tyres were new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 21, 2006 well i cant feel any major play so it is weird i spose, ill check it again to make sure, but i think i gunna change it anyway so both sides are done and ill fit new droplinks and shockers to so all suspension done:) And if that rallye rear beam not the same as a gti i spose it useless to me anyway:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick 3 Posted May 21, 2006 It's amazing how little play there needs to be in the bushes to make it pull to one side. Mine passed the mot while it was all over the road, when I changed the passenger side wishbone the only play I could see was by getting a big screwdriver in the bush hole and bending the bush, there was about 2mm movement in one bush and that was it! Nick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205_sunderland 4 Posted May 21, 2006 well i think i gunna just change it and hope for the best as the bottom arm is all it can be really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danpug 1 Posted May 21, 2006 As nick said, a tiny amount of bush movement makes a big difference to the car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
